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“A bigger question is why a rav needs to shlep out Seuda Shlishis when people are waiting to daven Maariv.”
There is a famous story that the Chofetz Chaim, may his merit protect us, shlepped out shalosh seudos when people were waiting to daven Maariv. The reason for this is well-known, that the souls of the wicked do not return to Purgatory until after Shabbos is over. Shabbos is over at the time that WE (in this world) make it be over.
The longer a person kept Shabbos in this world, the longer he will get to stay out of Purgatory in the next world.
I once heard of a “s’gula” for Shalom Bais for Shabbos: Sharpen your knives erev Shabbos by rubbing two knife blades against each another. I thought of a “s’vara” for this “s’gula”. Anyone want to venture an opinion?
If the knife is not sharp, you won’t be able to cut the challah properly, and that will cause frustration and anxiety (especially one is required to eat immediately after making the bracha, and here he won’t be able to cut the challah).
mik5, unless there are time zones in Purgatory, it doesn’t make a difference how much I stretch out Shabbos for on the US eastern seaboard, it will still be Shabbos somewhere in the world for at least another 10 hours
LC, are you assuming that neshamos rest from Gehennom from the time Shabbos begins in the earliest time zone until when Shabbos ends in the latest time zone?
lesschumras – What difference does that make? There is a mitzvah to add time on to Shabbos, and I mentioned, in the name of Chofetz Chaim, the significance of this mitzvah.
i may have mentioned this before —- there is a man in our community who is not well (unmedicated schizophrenia if i am guessing correctly) and has many many OCD tendencies. He used to be a huge masmid ‘before’ so his knowledge base is vast.
After his father died he knew that if he extended Shabbos it would keep his father out of gihenom so he started keeping shabbos until the latest possible time he could figure (Tuesday) and would restart it at the earliest possible time. His father has been gone many years and I am sure is comfortably seated in gan eden but this man keeps certain halachos from wednesday to tuesday every week. such as not going anywhere where there is a video or security camera or motion sensor lighting.
when i tried hard to argue with him that his ‘rule’ has left him homeless (literally), he brought me sources upon sources and names of rebbas who kept this and that – totally out-sourced me.
Mk5,I’ve heard elsewhere the reason you gave for extending Shabbos. It sound great until you give it some thought. Does it extend, as DY asked, from the first minute anywhere in the world to the last? Or does it apply just to those souls in your time zone?
You’re the one who brought it up. If it’s the first scenario, your extension of Shabbos only helps if you live in the last time zone that experiences Shabbos.
Obviously, this idea assumes the latter. Now you may ask, “Are there time zones in Olam Habo?”.
I don’t know the answer, but perhaps it follows the time zone of where the person is buried, or where he died, or where his descendants live. Or perhaps, the length of time out of Gehennom depends on how long Shabbos is kept in one area regardless if it’s at the same time.
A reason given for the minhag that an avel does not lead the tefillos on Shabbos is that it gives the appearance that he considers his parent a mechallel Shabbos, and therefore in need of the zechus to save the parent from Gehennom even on Shabbos.
We don’t find that if the son is in a different time zone, that minhag changes, nor do we find that he doesn’t lead Erev Shabbos Minchah or Sunday Shacharis because somewhere in the world it’s Shabbos. The son’s Shabbos is apparently representative of the parent’s, even if not actually aligned, so that concept may very well apply to the inyan of tosefes Shabbos as well.
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