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  • #1614233
    Avi K
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    Republican Ed Charamut sent fliers showing Democratic state Rep. Matthew Lesser, his opponent in the race for the 9th Senate District seat, clutching $100 dollar bills while smiling. Immediately he was accused of antisemitism being that Lesser is Jewish. Similarly, Israeli Supreme Court President Esther Hayut accused critics of the Court of incitement.

    Should liberals be told, as we say in Israel, עיזבו שטויות or, as they say in the US, to be given cheese to go with their whine?

    #1614308
    Joseph
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    You’re absolutely correct, Avi. Liberals and Democrats accusing their opponents, Republicans, conservatives and others who oppose their leftist positions of anti-Semitism is a farce.

    Liberals, especially liberal Jews, are the reason real Anti-Semites are able to shrug off accurate accusations of anti-Semitism due to liberals misuse by making false such accusations for political purposes and gain.

    #1614319
    CTLAWYER
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    @AviK
    You are in Israel, I am in CONNECTICUT where this occurred and am active in Politics.

    State Senate District (Middletown, Cromwell, etc) has a long history of anti-semitism. Middletown is home to Wesleyan University, full of Jew Haters and anti-Israel activists.
    Way back when I had an interview for admission and was told to my face the Jew Quota was filled. This long after the Civil Rights Act was the law of the land. I upturned the interviewer’s desk in his face and stormed out stating I wouldn’t attend this hellhole if it were free.

    Charamut’s past associations are not squeaky free. You do not know the local politics and your flippant comment is way off the mark.

    Disclosure: I know the retiring Senator Doyle and contributed to Lesser’s campaign ($5) to he could reach the requirement for state funding of his run for office. CT election funding requires raising a few thousand dollars from XXX donors in amounts less than $100. Then the state funds the candidates for State Senate equally in the amount of $90,000. It keeps the campaigns on equal footing and this is how a 22 year old can afford to run.

    #1614361
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Yes

    #1614402
    1
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    That’s the core issue. A lot of them never grow up.

    #1614420
    👑RebYidd23
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    All generalizations are bad.

    #1614442
    Joseph
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    Some generalizations are accurate.

    #1614459
    ☕️coffee addict
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    All generalizations are bad.

    How about this one

    All nazis are evil

    #1614458
    1
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    Generalizations are based on truths. Fact is george Soros does control a lot of things. Is that anti-Semitic?

    #1614476
    ubiquitin
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    “All nazis are evil”

    even Oskar Schindler?

    #1614478
    Meno
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    All generalizations are bad.

    How about this one:

    All generalizations are bad.

    #1614489
    👑RebYidd23
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    Coffee addict, Oskar Schindler is considered good by many people.

    #1614491
    Joseph
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    Are you making the argument that “all Nazis aren’t bad”?!

    #1614496
    👑RebYidd23
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    If no cat has two tails, and a cat has one more tail than no cat, does a cat have three tails?

    #1614508
    ubiquitin
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    “Are you making the argument that “all Nazis aren’t bad”?!’

    Oskar Schindler is making that argument

    And to preempt your next argument, he isnt even a Scotsman, let alone a true one

    #1614513
    Avi K
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    CTL, that is interesting as Wesleyan advertised study in Israel programs in the student newspaper of my alma mater (CCNY – which was still very Jewish) forty-five years ago when I was a student. In any case, this is not the first time that liberals have pulled this stunt. In fact, they are even trying to make political capital out of the Pittsburgh tragedy.
    .BTW, just out of curiosity, why did you apply to a Xtian university?

    #1614514
    Avi K
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    The point is that there is nothing antisemitic about depicting a liberal candidate as being a money grubber. I do admit though, that I would have picked something more imaginative like “Lesser means more – taxes”. Are you familiar with the story of the boy who cried “Wolf”?

    #1614564
    Reb Eliezer
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    Avi K, Lesser taxes means more for the rich, less for the middle class and poor.

    #1614757
    👑RebYidd23
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    Laskern, that is only true if you are taxing the rich more.

    #1614766
    CTLAWYER
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    @Avi K
    My mother went to Hunter and my father to City College in the 1930s before CUNY existed.

    Wesleyan may have been founded by the Methodist Church in 1831, but became an independent secular college in 1937.
    I did NOT apply, I had an interview on campus. In my day (which seems concurrent with yours) it was common to visit colleges, tour the campus and have interviews before making application. This let you eliminate some and save application fees, etc.
    I visited and had the interview, because the school was in commuting distance (35 minute drive) to my home. I also visited and had interviews at 3 or for other colleges that I did not apply to. I made application to only 3 universities and was accepted and attended University oF Pennsylvania (Wharton) my first choice.

    #1614851
    Avi K
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    Laskern, the more for the rich trickles down. More investments, more jobs.

    CTL, according to “Wesleyan University: A Brief History” in the 1060s it started to actively recruit black students. I guess you got what Asian-Americans are now getting from Harvard. Let’s see if SCOTUS will again uphold it. Interestingly, in the ’70s, as I noted, it sponsored study in Israel programs.

    #1616268
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Synagogue vandalism suspect in NYC worked for Obama campaign in 2008, reports say

    From foxnews.com

    I can’t believe it! A democrat that’s an anti Semite

    #1616756
    chiefshmerel
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    Grow up?!

    It’s not anti-Semitic to criticize Soros. It is anti-Semitic to use money ads against a Jewish candidate, as Jews supposedly control the wealth.

    “Globalist” has for a long time been a white nationalist code for Jew. When David Duke complains about globalists ruining this country, he means Jews.

    A few days ago, Kevin McCarthy, the House Majority Leader, tweeted that we “cannot allow Soros, Steyer, and Bloomberg to buy the election.”
    After widespread criticism, he’s deleted the tweet.
    I don’t know what was going on in his mind. You can call it a coincidence, you might be right.

    But as I said before, using ads with money against Jewish candidates is generally anti-Semitic.

    #1616794
    Avi K
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    Chiefshmerel,
    1. If the intent is that he is a big-spending liberal it is not antisemitic.
    2. “Globalists”, according to the Conservapedia, “oppose nationalism, national sovereignty, and self-governance. Leftist anti-Zionists are also globalists
    3. David Duke does not interest me. IMHO he should be ignored. This is the greatest punishment he can receive.
    4. Leftists say the same thing about the Koch brothers. Are they anti-German-American? This PC nonsense should be stopped.

    #1618622
    CTLAWYER
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    Happy to see Charamut was trounced by Lesser.

    Exit polling showed this anti-Semitic advt was a major cause of former supporters voting against the incumbent

    #1618638
    Neville ChaimBerlin
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    Congratulations, Democrats. We take back everything we said. Just please don’t raise our taxes.

    #1619934
    Avi K
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    CTL, are you saying that he is the lesser of two evils? IMHO if Charamut had hired me as a sloganeer he would have won big.

    Back to the general point of this thread, Michael Tomasky wrote in today’s NY Slimes (Times),after predicting another GOP Senate win in 2020 “What can they do? People discuss long-term — and long-shot — fixes, like adding the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico as states the first chance they get. At an even greater extreme, maybe someday we should do to the Senate what Britain did to the House of Lords in 1911 and strip it of real lawmaking power. That may sound crazy, but something must be done.” Apparently they are symbolized by blue because if they don’t get their way they threaten to hold their breath until that is what they turn. Maybe they should just take their bats and balls and go home. Contrast their sore loser, sour grapes attitude with the gentlemanly response of Pres. Trump, who congratulated Nancy Pelosi, and the House Republicans.

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