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January 26, 2011 6:12 pm at 6:12 pm #594508Feif UnParticipant
Someone asked me where the source is to sit shivah when a relative becomes an apikores or marries a non-Jew. Does anyone know where it’s from?
I know that R’ Shlomo Eiger sat shiva when his son became chassidish, because he held it was apikursis, but that doesn’t give an inside source.
January 26, 2011 9:09 pm at 9:09 pm #732886deiyezoogerMemberI dont think there is a source in halacha, it’s just what people did.
January 26, 2011 11:43 pm at 11:43 pm #732887ItcheSrulikMemberIt’s minhag ashkenaz. No source in halakha. AFAIK sefardim don’t.
January 27, 2011 1:52 am at 1:52 am #732888oomisParticipantNot many people do it today.
January 27, 2011 2:32 am at 2:32 am #732890eclipseMemberLook up if Yaakov Avinu “mourned” for Esav.
January 27, 2011 2:42 am at 2:42 am #732891bombmaniacParticipantdoesnt it come from teh way teh bnei yisrael mourned moshe?
January 27, 2011 2:44 am at 2:44 am #732892eclipseMemberI just tried to find it.I couldn’t find Esav’s petirah altogether.Is it even mentioned?(I know where his head landed up)
January 28, 2011 1:47 am at 1:47 am #732894yitayningwutParticipantNot much more went one there than here, but check it out:
January 28, 2011 2:05 am at 2:05 am #732895eclipseMemberI meant how a bad person is mourned for,if at all.
January 28, 2011 2:53 am at 2:53 am #732896HaLeiViParticipantThe idea of Shiva is Kovod Hamess. Who are you trying to honor when he goes off the D?
January 28, 2011 3:27 am at 3:27 am #732897oomisParticipantThe honor is to the meis, but sitting shiva is also an expression of profound grief. You would agree, would you not, that for a child to become a meshumad or marry a goy, would cause extensive grief to the parents and family members? Going off the derech is NOT the same thing, btw, event hough ti cause agmas nefesh.
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