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Ever take your kids to see the Rangers, Mets, Yankees etc. play?
How did you enjoy the experience?
I took my kids to a cockfight once.
It was ridiculous. Why should I pay $8 dollars for a beer while watching a bunch of chickens pecking at each other when I can drink at home for much cheaper?
My kids liked it, but they would be just as happy eating the same peanuts in the backyard.
Once i was at a mets game and they brought into the game the relief pitcher Aaron Heilman there were some fans who called out heil hitler when his name was announced.
I am a big sports fan and go to games occasionaly and take my daughter sometimes
I am not charedi, but I can say this.
If you go to a SUNDAY AFTERNOON BASEBALL game , most of the fans there are familes and behave as such. People generally behave nicely when kids are around
Everytime Ive been to a Hockey game there is a fight, sometimes the fight goes from the Ice to the stands. I havent been to a Hockey game in about 10 years, but it never failed until then.
Ive been to a couple of Giants games this year. At one game there was a Redskins fan, using bad language and bad gestures. My daughter did not like it at all and refuses to go with me to a Football game again.
People seemed to misbahve most at Hockey and Football games
My daughter went with my mother, my sister and myself (along with my aunt and her boyfriend) to a Yankees game last year. We all had a great time.
The Wolf
Who can afford to go to these events nowadays?
Popa:
Are you into dog fighting as well?
I don’t think there’s any problem with the game, but the problem is ????? ??? and ??????. When my father took my brother to Basball games, it was on condition that they would learn between innings.
If the kids are in to sports it can be fun. The only sport I will not take my son (almost 14 years old) to see is a Rangers game at Madison Square Garden. The language used by the fans is far more unseemly than that used at other local sporting events.
what about hashkafah-wise? are people in the Frum world generally ok with taking your kids to a game?
My boys were huge sports fan. One was into baseball and I think he outgrew it. My other one is very into basketball. He likes to go to the garden and watch the nicks.
They sell real Kosher Food at Yankee, Mets and Football games. (Mets and Football under Vaad of Queens, Yankees I am not sure since I am not a yankee fan)
(Madison Square garden refused to get a Kosher vendor)
They usually have minyanim at or near the Kosher stands and you always see people with kipot at the events (especially Baseball Games) , Most of them are more modern types, I dont see as many “black hatters” at the game.
If you think its Bitul Torah you will never approve.
Obviously the Vaad of Queens would not give Hasghcha unless their Rabbis Approved of it
I never went because I don’t like watching other people play ball. If I’m spending the time on recreation anyway, I’d rather either play myself or watch a good movie. (Or waste time in the CR)
zahavasdad: I’m not so sure about your last point. In my experience hashgochos generally limit themselves to the food and not the venue. My father once called a heimish hashgocha in Flatbush (won’t say which for obvious reasons) to complain about the dress and behavior of the waitresses (can’t get into details, this is yehsivaworld) at a local cafe, they said that they can’t do anything about any issues but the food.
i know people who wont let their kids go and there is a school here that doesnt let the boys go either. besides the language that goes on what about the cheerleaders and the other women running around shooting the t-shirts etc. what about when the girls come out on the ice…ya know? thats just as bad too
The Chofetz Chaim Chinese auction next week is auctioning some Yankee Tickets and the Bais Yaakov of Far Rockaway at their chinese auction offered some Yankee tickets.
I doubt the R”Y is even aware of what is in the auction, let alone approved it.
These auctions never have cockfights. Ridiculous.
Its not a matter of women being there. Its a matter of pritzus.
We won’t go to basketball or football games because of the cheerleaders, and we stay away from hockey because of the fighting. But we LOVE baseball (Go Yankees!) and that has none of that- it’s all good, clean fun. We go to a few Yankees games every summer and we bring our little boy, and it’s good clean fun. He’s only 1.5, but I hope to teach him how to fill out a box score in the next few years 🙂
The fans don’t curse in the stands?
The Giants do not have cheerleaders, The Jets do though.
Where beer is served, there will always be rowdy fans, But on Sunday Day Games its mostly families. People going to a game with their wives and children do not drink and use bad language.
Most people are decent enough not to behave badly in front of children
Most people are decent enough not to behave badly in front of children
Even if you throw the dice and hope no one will behave badly in front of your children’s neshomos, how certain are you it wont happen elsewhere in the stands — but within hearing or seeing distance.
I ride the Subway, I walk the streets of NYC.
Ive seen fights in the Subway, Ive seen bad language, Beggers you name it. Probably more than Ive seen than at a sporting event.
Just walking the streets of NYC you are bound to see or hear someone use bad language.
Probably more than Ive seen than at a sporting event.
Cumulatively, or within a 3 hour period (about the time a game takes)?
I submit at a sporting event you will have a much higher concentration of inappropriate language and/or activity than the other venues you’ve mentioned.
Additionally, attendance at the other venues may often not be avoidable, while a sporting event is.
I dont ride the subway everyday anymore, but when I did almost every day there was a “Subway Preacher”.
The train is an express train and there was no place to move as the train is packed so changing cars is impossible.
And these people are LOUD. I have no idea how someone could be so loud as to be louder than a packed loud Subway train.
And it was worse if they were standing right near me when they begin to preach , Can burn a hole in your ear.
At least at the ballpark you can move, you cant on the crowded subway train.
If a “Subway Preacher” were the most inappropriate activity to occur at a sporting event, there wouldn’t be nearly as strong of a case against it.
I too took the NYC Subway twice daily, in packed cars. And while they popped in every now and then, I rarely encountered them more than once every couple of weeks. And most of them were loud beggars for something like the “United Homeless Organization”, very infrequently preachers.
FWIW, when I attended a Yankees game last year with my daughter (as mentioned above), there was, to the best of my ability to discern) no bad behavior at all.
The Wolf
“They sell real Kosher Food at Yankee, Mets and Football games”
Also at the National Tennis Center for the US Open Tennis tournament. Vaad of Queens supervision.
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