The failures of lottery winners don’t mean that winning the lottery is bad.

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    👑RebYidd23
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    It’s just that lottery winners are pre selected to be bad with money. Before they won, they wasted what little they had on lottery tickets.

    #1564314

    🐵 ⌨ Gamanit
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    What about those who only buy on an occasional basis? Are those more likely to succeed?

    #1564353

    DovidBT
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    Rav Sheishess said:: … Rather, [dice-players are disqualified] because they are not involved with furthering the general welfare.
    Sanhedrin 24b

    #1564335

    laskern
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    Someone once complained to Hashem that he never wins the lottery, so He said to him, did you ever buy a lottery ticket?

    #1565208

    👑RebYidd23
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    There have been people who found a winning ticket that they did not buy.

    #1565299

    ☕️coffee addict
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    Did those people succeed with their winnings?

    #1566193

    Redleg
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    Misasek b’kuvia are pasul l’eidus be cause they have a chazaka of untrustworthiness. Note that, at least in dinei mamonus, if the litigants agree to accept the eidus of a gambler, his testimony is accepted. The p’sul of misasek is not intrinsic. It is simply a chazaka. Do lottery purchasers have such a chazaka? I think not.

    #1567982

    yitzyk
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    There were some great tzaddikim that bought lottery tickets. Not everyone agrees, but certainly Yesh Al Mi Lismoch, so it can’t be totally assur or a P’sul.

    Certainly it must have only been occasionally, because Leis Man D’Palig that buying it regularly is a waste of money.

    There is a Chassidishe legend about a certain tzaddik who learned and did chessed every minute of the day. Once every few months when funds ran low, he did his ‘Hishtadlus’ by buying a lottery ticket (and winning apparently.) But I think no one today is on that level of bitachon and Melumad Binissim (a Baal Mofes).

    #1568135

    👑RebYidd23
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    Buying one ticket opens up the possibility. Buying more than one is foolishness.

    #1610435

    👑RebYidd23
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    In places where lottery winners can be anonymous, they probably do better.

    #1610439

    Doing my best
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    statistically, (i just googled it) 70% of lottery winners go broke.
    Jewish people are normally more financially successful than average, so wouldn’t most of the people in the CR have at least a 60% chance of having a nice post lottery life?

    #1610501

    Chabadshlucha
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    I wonder how much would even be left over once a winning frum family put aside funds for tuition for 8+ kids, a house and weddings… That makes it more likely that it would just be a Brocha and not ruin their lives by encouraging them to be non productive.

    #1610502

    Chabadshlucha
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    Not to mention maaser and chomesh

    #1610536

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    DocidBT the lottery is meant to support public funds

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