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  • #589391
    feivel
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    asked by someone:

    “The one Jewish ideal that I can’t get my head around is Moshiach – the belief in the coming of a messianic era. What good is achieved by awaiting some future time when there will be peace on earth? Shouldn’t we focus on the present, rather than dreaming about the future? Why is the belief in the coming of the messiah so central to Judaism?”

    I’ll post an answer later

    #642391
    kapusta
    Participant

    to be or not to be…

    #642392
    qwertyuiop
    Member

    feivel: we’re waiting.$

    #642393
    feivel
    Participant

    not written by me:

    Some of the deepest truths I learnt from my cricket coach. He was a sharp guy, with a keen eye for detail. He would observe my batting style and point out what I needed to work on. But I gained more than just cricket advice.

    One consistent flaw in my batting was my follow through. The coach noticed that as soon as my bat hits the ball my arms lock and the bat stops. No good, he said. You need a full follow through. After hitting the ball you must keep swinging, making a complete semi-circle in the air.

    This made no sense to me. What difference does it make what I do with the bat after I have hit the ball? Contact has been made between bat and ball, and whatever power I have put into the shot is there already. Will the ball travel further if I follow through? I can understand why backswing is important – the more I pull the bat back, the more momentum the swing has. But once the ball is hit, who cares what I do with the bat? Whether I keep swinging or stop, throw the bat away or eat it should make no difference to the ball that has already been hit. Why follow through?

    My coach gave me the answer. The end point shapes the whole. The follow through doesn’t begin after you hit the ball; it begins as soon as you lift the bat. A swing that will end in a full follow through is a different swing entirely. What will be effects what is. The destination influences the whole journey.

    This principle – that the end point shapes the whole – is true in cricket, baseball, tennis and golf. And it’s true in life too. What you believe about tomorrow shapes how you view today. Where your life is headed determines how your life is lived.

    If the world is randomly hurtling through space, bound to eventually collide with an asteroid and return to vapour, then human history is a directionless romp through time, we are going nowhere, and my life certainly has no significance. Why work, why build, why love if it all ends in nothingness?

    But if the world is heading toward a purpose for which it was created, if human history is a long journey with a clear and wonderful destination, then my today matters. My efforts today can bring the world a little closer to its purpose. My lifetime builds on the lifetimes that came before me, and gives a better world to those who will come after me, edging ever closer to the times of the Moshiach.

    We are not just propelled by our past; we are beckoned by our future. Believing in a messianic future, a world of peace and divine closeness, inspires me to make today a step further in the journey. The Moshiach ideal makes the world better now. It may even improve my batting average

    #642394
    WolfishMusings
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    I’m not sure I understand the question. One needs to look at the present as well as look to the future.

    Just to give a silly example: I work, but I also put money in my 401(k) for the future. In other words, I’m properly concerned about meeting my day-to-day obligations (today) and still looking towards and preparing for the future.

    The Wolf

    #642395
    qwertyuiop
    Member

    feivel: thanx for the answer.$

    #642396
    torahtziva
    Member

    beuatiful answer thanxxxxx

    #642397
    feivel
    Participant

    “I’m not sure I understand the question”

    im not sure you understand the answer

    #642398
    feivel
    Participant

    wolf to be more clear

    nowhere did anyone suggest one should not be concerned about the present

    if i may try to clarify the answer for you:

    the present is NOT AN END, this is the answer in a nutshell

    it is a means to an end

    if there were no eternity your life would have no meaning.

    if you had no tomorrow, chas v Shalom, putting money in your 401k today would have no meaning for you

    #642403
    rabbiofberlin
    Participant

    CRICKET ??????? wow !!!! I bet 99 out of one hundred posters here have no clue about cricket….

    #642404
    teen
    Member

    not sure if this is the same answer but:

    if you are working towards moshiach then you will do as many mitzvot as possible because perhaps your mitzvot will be the ones that bring moshiach but if you dont beleive in moshiach why bother doing it?

    not a very good answer but i just thought of it so i fiigured id share 🙂

    #642405
    qwertyuiop
    Member

    RoB: i do.$

    #642406
    Joseph
    Participant

    I must be 1 in 100.

    #642407

    I do… so I guess since you and I both know what it is, almost no one else knows without google or a dictionary…

    #642408
    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    I bet noitallmr knows what cricket is (UK??). and no- I did not use google (I’m ancient enough to REMEMBER) ;);)

    #642409
    noitallmr
    Participant

    areivimzehlazeh- you bet I know what cricket is. Not knowing cricket here is like not knowing your alphabet.

    But truth be told England is more into Football than Cricket for obvious reasons…

    #642410
    goody613
    Member

    The present is preparing for the future of moshiach

    #642412
    myshadow
    Member

    feivel, WOW!!! Very nice!

    Isn’t cricket like golf but with no holes?

    #642413
    RoshYeshivah
    Member

    Wow feivel You’re a great thinker

    #642414
    teen
    Member

    did u no that pool was taken from criquet?

    #642415
    myshadow
    Member

    teen, really? Isn’t cricket this game with a stick like a golf club and these little flying things?

    #642416
    moish01
    Member

    cricket? isn’t that like baseball with a huge bat or something??

    i might have made that up.

    #642417
    myshadow
    Member

    hold on I’m gona google it

    #642418
    myshadow
    Member

    K straight from wikipedia:

    Does sound kinda like baseball

    “A cricket match is contested by two teams, usually of eleven players each[5] and is played on a grass field in the centre of which is a flat strip of ground 22 yards (20 m) long called a pitch. A wicket, usually made of wood, is placed at each end of the pitch and used as a target.

    #642419
    teen
    Member

    myshadow: oh yeh my bad pool is based on some other game where you hit these balls with like a golf club type of thing through wickets (i think theyr called that) and the kings didnt like sweating so they put it on a table and moved it indoors or something (thats y a pool table is green on top to represent the grass)

    but i forgot the name of the game it is based on

    #642420
    teen
    Member

    not sure how we got from moshiach to cricket haha

    #642421
    beacon
    Participant

    We used to play cricket in camp many many years ago before most of you were born… jk it was like 10 years or something since I played.. I always hated it

    #642422
    YW Moderator-42
    Moderator

    Speaking of cricket… Is the answer 42?

    #642423
    moish01
    Member

    42, don’t tell me this is from the last time you were on here… that’s a full month, man!

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