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    7

    6 x 7 = 42 & 4+2 = 6

    3 x 9 = 27 & 2+7 = 9

    4 x 5 = 20 & 2+0 = 2

    8 x 2 = 16 & 1+6 = 7

    #1067833

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    Correct!

    OK, for your next assignment, list all remaining digits of this well-known geometric number: 3.14159….

    #1067834
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    3.

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    #1067835

    I can only try… its very easy! 22/7! (ok, i know you meant the other way….)

    #1067836
    noitallmr
    Participant

    Dr. Pepper- Your a genius!

    Have you ever taken an I.Q test?????

    #1067837

    Oh, come on, I don’t think anyone believes that Dr. Pepper knew that by heart. He got it from the Internet, probably, or a textbook. I know some people who have memorized a good number of the digits of pi, but no one I know is crazy enough to memorize more than the first hundred digits (and, in my opinion, that’s already pretty crazy!)

    #1067838

    Dr. Pepper-

    Pick the one that you like best (if any):

    1) Sorry Dr., but that answer grades “incomplete”

    2) Now say that ten times fast

    3) I’m NOT chipping in to replace your worn-out keyboard

    4) I think the eleventh zero on line 5071 should be a nine. Please double check.

    5) Anybody could’ve done that. Let’s see you say it backwards.

    6) This actually makes more sense than most extra-long posts.

    7) YWN’s server now needs a new batch of 0’s and 1’s delivered.

    (Did you ever read “The Code Book”? I think you’d enjoy it.)

    havesomeseichel-

    22/7 is a very close approximation, but it’s not correct.

    #1067839

    Ohhh… is that why i got only a 99 on my math test!

    #1067840

    The Frustrated Teacher

    The fifth-grade math teacher wasn’t in the mood to give his planned lesson.

    The class was in a restless mood and he just didn’t have the energy to to teach the prepared material and enforce discipline.

    He decided to give himself a break by giving the class an exercise that would take up the entire scheduled hour, but would only take him a minute to assign and explain.

    The problem he devised was simple – the students were to add every whole number from 1 thru 100.

    About five minutes later, the teacher was sitting at his desk, mentally patting himself on the back for his ingenuity. Most of the students were sitting at their desks, deep in thought. A couple of the slower writers were still writing numbers on their papers.

    One of the brighter boys raised his hand.

    The teacher frowned in mild annoyance at the interruption of his “free” period.

    “Yes?” he called on the student “do you need help?”

    “No,” replied the student, “I finished, and the answer is …..”.

    The teacher was shocked. “How did you add up all the numbers so quickly?”

    The student expalined the simple but brilliant method he had used.

    The teacher groaned to himself as he got up and walked to the blackboard.

    He now had fifty minutes of class to teach.

    1) What was the answer?

    2) What was the student’s “trick”?

    (I am sure this is an oldie, since I remember it from an SRA. If you already know the answer, “chap nischt”. If you know what an SRA was, you too may be an oldie:))

    #1067841
    Dr. Pepper
    Participant

    1) What was the answer?

    2) What was the student’s “trick”?

    3) Who was the student?

    1) 5,050

    2) There are 100 integers, 1 through 100. Add the first and last => 1 + 100 = 101. Add the second and second to last => 2 + 99 = 101. Continue the process until the fiftieth and fiftieth to last => 50 + 51 = 101. Therefore we have 50 pairs of 101. 50 x 101 = 5,050. In general to add the integers 1 through n the formula is (n/2)*(n+1) or more commonly written as (n*(n+1))/2. (This works for all n where n can be odd or even.)

    3) If I remember correctly the student was Carl Friedrich Gauss who lived in the late 1700s to mid 1800s.

    Good night everyone

    #1067842

    Hard-Boiled Detection

    Leah’s four sons were leaving home and moving to different cities.

    Since they each enjoyed a hard-boiled egg for breakfast, the asked their mother for the recipe before they left.

    On the first day following their move, Leah called them all to find out how things were going.

    Reuven said “fine”.

    Shimon said “great”.

    Chaim said “fantastic”.

    Yankel said “Could be better. My egg wasn’t fully cooked.”

    Assuming all four followed Leah’s instructions verbatim, why was Yankel’s egg ruined?

    #1067843

    havesomeseichel-

    I too got a 99, but only when totaling two separate tests.

    Dr. Pepper

    Correct!

    (at terms end, once the teacher passed Gauss, would you say his class was degaussed?)

    #1067844
    anon for this
    Participant

    ICOT,

    Did Yankel move to a city that was at a different elevation that where his mother lived?

    #1067845
    Pashuteh Yid
    Member

    Oh My Gauss!

    #1067846
    feivel
    Participant

    yankel hardboiled his egg, not fried.

    water boils at a lower temperature at high elevations

    he probably moved to denver, there is a big Jewish community there

    the egg will take longer to cook there because the boiling water is cooler than he was used to

    #1067847
    feivel
    Participant

    chasid-of-Hashem

    i apologize profusely

    here is the “answer” which i posted a while ago to that problem:

    “icot

    im sorry for your time wasted

    i thought it was obvious that it was a joke.

    Posted 1 week ago”

    #1067848

    anon for this-

    feivel-

    Correct!

    Water’s temperature can only rise to the point where it becomes steam.

    The greater the atmospheric pressure on the water’s surface, the hotter the water must be in order to change from a liquid to a gaseous state.

    Compressing any gas sufficiently turns it into a liquid, be it oxygen, nitrogen, or water vapor.

    The way a pressure cooker works is that by raising the pressure inside the pot it allows the water to reach a higher temperature and cook the food more quickly.

    Conversely, lowering pressure lowers the boiling point as well.

    Room-temperature water would boil away in a vacuum.

    As Feivel pointed out, Denver would be a possible destination of Yankel’s since it has both a frum community and a high altitude (there is a marker on the capitol’s steps denoting exactly one mile above sea level).

    Mexico City is another possibility that I can think of that has both of the above factors.

    (I’m pretty sure Nepal doesn’t have a frum community)

    You’ll be happy to know that by day 2, Yankel had adjusted the cooking time and was enjoying his customary gourmet breakfast.

    Feivel- we miss your puzzles, especially since (I think) your halacha riddles inspired this thread.

    #1067849

    Oops!

    Their are three errers in this item.

    Study it carefully and see if you can find all three of them.

    #1067850

    The Big Question

    The Bigger family consists of Father Bigger, Mother Bigger and Baby Bigger.

    Father Bigger is two meters tall and weighs 15 stone.

    Mother Bigger is 1/900 of a mile tall and weighs 54 kilo.

    Baby Bigger is .7 yards tall and weighs 201 ounces.

    Who is the biggest Bigger?

    #1067851
    squeak
    Participant

    1) ‘Their’ instead of ‘There’

    2) ‘Errers’ should be ‘Errors’

    3) ‘Three’ should be ‘Two’

    The baby is a little bigger.

    #1067852

    squeak-

    Both correct!

    (c’mon now, you knew the “Bigger” one previously, didn’t you?)

    #1067853
    squeak
    Participant

    I admit it. And I wouldn’t have answered it, precisely for that reason, except that I was already answering the other one, anyway.

    Since I took away a puzzle, here’s one to compensate:

    Imagine that you are in a dark room with a candle, a wood stove and a gas lamp. You only have one match, so what do you light first?

    #1067854
    squeak
    Participant

    V’lo oid, elah..

    A family photo contained:

    one grandfather, one grandmother,

    two fathers, two mothers,

    six children, four grandchildren,

    two brothers, two sisters,

    three sons, three daughters,

    one father-in-law, one mother-in-law, one daughter-in-law

    How many people are in the photo (lowest number wins)?

    #1067855
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    the YW MODERATOR has to answer a riddle once in awhile. squeak – light the match first!

    #1067856
    squeak
    Participant

    YAY YW Mod!!!!

    You see, it’s worth having your head spin for a while – now you’re in the game!

    #1067857
    Yanky55
    Participant

    Anyone know the names of Lot’s two SONS?

    #1067858
    Just Smile
    Participant

    Moav and Ben-Amon

    #1067859
    Yanky55
    Participant

    Very good! A lot of people don’t get that one….

    #1067860
    Jewess
    Member

    Lot’s 2 sons that he had with his 2 daughters: Amon and Moav

    #1067861
    Jewess
    Member

    woops, sorry just smile, didn’t see your until I posted…

    #1067862
    Just Smile
    Participant

    I’m just really good. 🙂

    #1067863

    feivel-

    i must say, i am bitterly dissapointed!! could have been a real good one. maybe you want to revise the riddle and give it an answer?

    #1067864

    Isn’t it Ben-Ammi, not Ben-Ammon?

    #1067865
    Nobody
    Member

    Whoever makes it, tells it not.

    Whoever takes it, knows it not.

    Whoever knows it, wants it not.

    What is it?

    #1067866

    squeak-

    I came up with eight, based on the following:

    There are at least six separate people here (the children).

    The relationships described are with each other (otherwise there would be at least six grandchildren).

    Generation 1: Avrohom, a widower and Sorah, a widow

    Generation 2: Yitzchok, Avrohom’s son who marries Rivka, Sorah’s daughter

    Generation 3: Reuven, Shimon, Dina and Yehudis – Yitzchok and Rivka’s children.

    a) one grandfather, one grandmother: Avrohom and Sorah

    b) two fathers, two mothers: Avrohom, Yitzchok, Sorah and Rivka

    c) six children: Yitzchok, Rivka, Reuven, Shimon, Dina and Yehudis

    d) four grandchildren: Reuven, Shimon, Dina and Yehudis

    e) two brothers: Reuven, Shimon

    f) two sisters: Dina, Yehudis

    g) three sons: Yitzchok, Reuven, Shimon

    h) three daughters: Rivka, Dina, Yehudis

    i) one father-in-law: Avrohom

    j) one mother-in-law: Sorah

    k) one daughter-in-law: Rivka

    (this may be wrong, because by this cheshbon there should also be one son-in-law)

    #1067867

    Nobody-

    Engineered viruses, produced by a terrorist group?

    (probably not, too klugey)

    #1067869
    Dr. Pepper
    Participant

    Hi Everyone,

    The swelling in my fingers from my post on Sunday finally went away and I can type again.

    Getting back to that riddle with the teacher- when I was in 10th grade we were learning ???? ????? and in ??? ?? the end of second Mishna says ?????? ???? ?? ???????, ????? ???? ?? ??????–???? ???? ?? ????? ??????; ??? ????, ???? ????? ?? ??????? ???? ??? ?????. So our Rebbe asked us to add up the total amount of 1 + 2 + 3 + … + 60.

    The plan I came up with was to add the numbers 1 through 10 (I used a shortcut for this, I already knew from the boxes of Chanukah candles that Telze sends out that the sum of the integers of 2 through 9 is 44 and 44 + 1 + 10 = 55), the sum from 11 to 20 is just 100 more and from 21 to 30 is just 100 more than that. Continuing we have 55 + 155 + 255 + 355 + 455 + 555 = 50 + 150 + 250 + 350 + 450 + 550 + 6×5 = 1800 + 30 = 1830.

    It’s not as fast as the other one I posted and is impractical for large numbers and numbers not ending in 0, but it does work.

    #1067870
    Dr. Pepper
    Participant

    noitallmr

    Dr. Pepper- Your a genius!

    Have you ever taken an I.Q test?????

    Thanks for the compliment! But most of the stuff I posted is high school level.

    #1067871
    Dr. Pepper
    Participant

    I can only try

    Dr. Pepper-

    Pick the one that you like best (if any):

    1) Sorry Dr., but that answer grades “incomplete”

    2) Now say that ten times fast

    3) I’m NOT chipping in to replace your worn-out keyboard

    4) I think the eleventh zero on line 5071 should be a nine. Please double check.

    5) Anybody could’ve done that. Let’s see you say it backwards.

    6) This actually makes more sense than most extra-long posts.

    7) YWN’s server now needs a new batch of 0’s and 1’s delivered.

    (Did you ever read “The Code Book”? I think you’d enjoy it.)

    I’ll pick number six.

    What I like about this thread is the amount of respect everyone has for each other and there is no fighting. Can anyone else think of another topic where we can schmooze like human beings? The moderators would like it.

    #1067873
    Nobody
    Member

    I Can Only Try – nope. Its actually easy when you know the answer !!!

    #1067874
    anon for this
    Participant

    This isn’t a riddle but a factual question I’ve wondered about:

    I’ve heard that Kramer’s Rule (a method of solving a system of x unique linear equations and x unknowns) was developed by the Vilna Gaon (who did, if I understand correctly, have that last name). This is something I’ve only heard/ read in Jewish sources but have never seen this verified. The author of Kramer’s rule is not identified anywhere that I know of, so I suppose it could be the Vilna Gaon, but it seems very unlikely.

    Has anyone else found any verifiable source for who actually developed Kramer’s Rule?

    #1067875
    Dr. Pepper
    Participant

    This sounds like Cramer’s rule. It is very efficient for solving systems of differential equations, but I guess it could be used for linear equations (although there are easier methods that do not require computing the determinant).

    In any case the rule is named after Gabriel Cramer who lived at the same time as the Vilna Goan, but was a different person.

    #1067876
    anon for this
    Participant

    Dr. Pepper,

    Thanks for the quick answer. It’s been a while so I misspelled the name. I agree Carmer’s Rule is one of the least efficient ways of solving linear equations by hand, though that’s when I first learned it. It is a good method if you are programming though. Unfortunately I barely remember Diff Eqs anymore.

    #1067877

    Nobody- could it be anger? One doesnt know that they prompted it, no one wants it and if you got it, you think you are being rational and dont think you are being angry…

    (the same goes for holding a grudge…)

    I have a feeling that you wanted something more concrete, but I had this idea…

    #1067878
    Nobody
    Member

    Havesomeseichel – Nope.

    As it’s over 24 hours since I posted the riddle, below is the answer. I’m sure you thought I’d be after something deep, but I do have a chilled side to me as well….

    Whoever makes it, tells it not.

    Whoever takes it, knows it not.

    Whoever knows it, wants it not.

    What is it?

    Counterfeit money!

    #1067879
    Dr. Pepper
    Participant

    Reb “anon for this”,

    I never looked at it that way, but I guess it would be easier to program a computer to calculate the unknown variables as the ratio of two determinants than to pivot the equations using the Gaussian elimination method.

    At first I also assumed that Cramer was the Vilna Goan. When I asked someone in yeshiva if “Cramer was the Vilna Goan”? He looked at me like I was on Coke and said “From Seinfeld”? (From then on I remembered that Gabriel Cramer spells his name with a C.)

    #1067880

    Nobody-

    I never would have gotten it.

    My next guess was going to be a “kick me” sign.

    Dr. Pepper-

    Some of us (me) had real problems with high school math.

    I think you were (are?) a very good teacher because you are an excellent bal masbir.

    Never having heard of Cramer’s Rule, I looked it up. In the case of

    2x + y + z = 3

    x + 2y + z = 0

    I understand it except for this part:

    |2 1 1|

    D = | 1 -1 -1| = (-2)+(-1)+(2)

    |1 2 1| -(-1)-(-4)-(1)=3

    Where do the numbers used in “(-2)+(-1)+(2)-(-1)-(-4)-(1)” come from? (If this is an unreasonable question to ask “al regel achas”, please let me know – I don’t want to be an advantagist).

    “Reb” can also stand for Rebetzin, which I assume is what you meant when addressing “anon for this”.

    #1067881

    Happy New Year

    Using only the digits in the upcoming secular year (2 0 0 9) in their proper order come up with an equation that totals each number from 1 thru 10. Any mathematical expression and decimal points are allowed.

    To get you started:

    _

    9 can’t be written with this font, so just use .9E(ndless) instead

    5 = (2+0+0)+?9

    (from a game magazine)

    #1067882

    Time and Again

    There are two fuses glued to a concrete floor.

    Each fuse will burn for exactly an hour.

    You have one box of 100 matches.

    1) How many different time intervals would you be able to accurately measure using the fuses and matches you were given?

    2) What are the intervals?

    3) How would you measure each of the intervals?

    (each solution starts with two new fuses.)

    #1067883

    I would not have posted here at this time if I had read of the situation in Mubai beforehand. Please take a few moments to say some tehilim.

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