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  • #1135984

    gavra_at_work
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    Things that people do wrong – halachically

    Going to the Mikvah while wearing Tefilin – it is a Chatziza. Like the guy who exercised every day in his Tallis, because his doctor told him he must exercise every day – religiously.

    Lo yihei deburcha beshabbos kidiburcha bechol

    you do not have to like it that is the halacha shabbos is lo yom vlo layla its SHABBOS

    A statement of Am HaAratzus, and Lo Am HaAretz Chassid. 🙂

    Are you going to tell me next that if one normally walks during the week, they must hop on Shabbos? After all, Lo yihei Heluchach beshabbos kihiluchach bechol! you do not have to like it that is the halacha shabbos is lo yom vlo layla its SHABBOS

    #1135985

    WolfishMusings
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    WM a video retraction is the only way

    Why?

    I think the most appropriate retraction would be in the very same forum.

    Honestly I do not know if Halacha gemura and you are mechalel Shabbos. The whole halacha of vedaber dovor is not like the other 39 Melochos its a halocho that shabbos we do not talk about money how much something costs or something assur to do on shabbos and so on.

    Really? You’re comparing discussing business to saying “good night?!” You think those are both equal in terms of violating the spirit of Shabbos?

    So if chacomim said that shabbos is a day unique how we greet each other is important.

    I didn’t dispute that.

    It is just very interesting that it was always said that in BP on the street nobody says gut shabbos but FB and other communities they do even to the opposite vechulu.

    I have no idea what you mean by this or why it’s relevant.

    But at home they forget about Shabbos good morning good night. SHabbos should be in our bones you should feel shabbos the learning the eating the talking the lounging sleeping should be on a lofty level shabbos is shabbos

    I fail to see how saying “good night” to someone is forgetting Shabbos. If I’m laying in bed on Friday night and before I drift off to sleep I say “good night” to Eees, I fail to see how that is disrespectful to Shabbos at all, let alone a “SHANDA.”

    The Wolf

    #1135986

    jewish source
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    gaw thanks I will go back to learn so I wont stay an Am harets

    #1135987

    👑RebYidd23
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    Telling strangers good shabbos is offensive because you’re making assumptions about them.

    #1135988

    gavra_at_work
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    gaw thanks I will go back to learn so I wont stay an Am harets

    Excellent. Just remember that Chazal said one should learn from a Rebbe, and not alone, as learning alone creates mistakes. If you had learned from your Rebbe (and not Rebba, Rebbe) what are the halachic parameters of Hilchos Shabbos rgarding Daber Davar (or even looked up the Mishna Berurah Siman 307), then you would have known that your statement was Am HaAratzus.

    Making up Halacha doesn’t make it into Halacha.

    I wish you hatzlacha in your Limudim.

    #1135989

    yichusdik
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    Boruch hashem that we are all going to give din vecheshbon before HKBH who is Just and Merciful at the end of our days. Because if the judgementalism and the arbitrary conversion of stricture, vague suggestions for Hiddur Mitzva, and poorly understood minhagei hador to absolute current halacha is the standard of the heilige dayonim who walk among us, The Malochim above would be pretty lonely.

    #1135990

    jewish source
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    gaw

    The midrash says that the first shabbos of Adom Harishon was kulo yom it did not have a night. This is the source not saying good night as shabbos is a day of kulo ohr. It is definetly a minhag not to say good day good morning or good night. I agree with you that the idea that I derived from vedaber dovor is my own idea and I still think it stand true that the torah teaches us to talk differently on shabbos saying good morning or good night I believe takes away from kedushas shabbos.By the way a minhag is stronger than halacha.

    #1135991

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    By the way a minhag is stronger than halacha.

    No, it isn’t.

    #1135992

    jewish source
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    yes minhag yisroel torah . Tosfos t Menachos 20b

    #1135993

    WolfishMusings
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    yes minhag yisroel torah . Tosfos t Menachos 20b

    It’s a nice saying, but it doesn’t mean that minhag trumps halacha, since it most certainly does not.

    The Wolf

    #1135994

    Neville ChaimBerlin
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    Mik: That’s a good point about tefillin. For some reason, I was only thinking of tefillin shel yad. You’re correct. People probably do wear the shel rosh too low a lot.

    #1135995

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Wolf is correct. Halachah is certainly Torah, so the expression doesn’t mean minhag trumps halachah, which it doesn’t.

    #1135996

    jewish source
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    Wolf is correct

    #1135997

    Sam2
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    There is a good selections of sources on the concept of “Minhag Oker Halachah” in the Shearim Metzuyanim BeHalachah on the Kitzur.

    #1135998

    mik5
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    Regarding what I wrote, that some people have never fulfilled the mitzvah of netilas yadayim in their lives, see the Q & A sefer by Rabbis Elozor Barclay & Yitzchok Jaeger, Laws of Bread.

    #1135999

    2qwerty
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    Washing hands…

    Next time you wash consider the side of your hand that’s along your pinky finger. Most people dont even attempt to put water there but assume that enough water will flow there from the other parts of the hand.

    I think the only way to get all the parts is to spin/twist your hand while the water is flowing out of your cup.

    #1136000

    mik5
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    turn your hand as you are pouring the water – yes

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