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  • #1006169
    sharp
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    Every Jewish child should have a grandma like oomis. Amen.

    Oomis, may you always see much Nachas from your children and grandchildren and may you enjoy a long and happy life together with your lucky husband, gezunteheit!

    #1006170
    oomis
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    Amein. Sharp, that is probably the absolutely sweetest thing anyone has ever said to me. Thank you very, very much for that beautiful bracha. My grandchildren B”H and bli ayin hara, give us a great deal of nachas. We just attended my eldest ainekel’s Chumash play today, and it was an amazing and meaningful experience, beyond words.

    #1006171
    TheGoq
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    I wasn’t zocheh to get to know either of my bubbe’s i really felt like i missed something special.

    #1006172
    👑RebYidd23
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    One weird thing about fairy tales is the recurring theme of men promising away the youngest thing in there homes in exchange for something and arriving home and finding out that they have a son.

    #1006173
    oomis
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    One weird thing about fairy tales is the recurring theme of men promising away the youngest thing in there homes in exchange for something and arriving home and finding out that they have a son.”

    To which fairytale do you refer? I know of those (like Rumplestiltskin) where the WIFE promises her firstborn to the little man, but at the (senior) moment I cannot think of even one like you suggest.

    Perhaps l’havdil eleph alphei havdalos, they got this idea from the story of Yiftach.

    #1006174
    zahavasdad
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    Most of the famous fairy Tales are actually from the Brothers Grimm (Grimms Fairly Tales) Like Snow White, Cinderella etc

    Many are famous and some are gruesome, However one of them not so famous was called THE JEW AMONG THORNS. It is one of the most Anti-semetic pieces of literature ever. You can google it and read it, it isnt that long

    #1006175
    👑RebYidd23
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    You’ve probably never heard of the ones I’m referring to because they’re stupid. Don’t read them either.

    #1006176
    HaLeiVi
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    There are so many wonderful true stories. It is wasteful to spend the bedtime filling the mind with nonsense. I tell my children (when we are lucky) stories of Tzaddikim. They can also feed the imagination. They actually do a better job of it.

    #1006177
    zahavasdad
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    Not all stories are Tzadikim are true

    for example there is plenty of evidence the Golem of Prague never existed

    There is also no evidence that Rav Amnon of Meinz (Usana Tokef) ever existed either

    #1006178
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    Zdad – then those won’t be the stories I’m telling.

    #1006179
    zahavasdad
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    You can tell the stories of the Golem of Prague, There is nothing wrong with them, I happen to like them I even made a trip to Prague because of it . Just realize they may not be true.

    #1006180
    Sam2
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    zdad: We know he existed. You’re thinking of the fact that we have a manuscript with Unsaneh Tokef in it from before when he lived.

    #1006181
    zahavasdad
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    Other than the Usana Tokef there is not mention anywhere else of a Rav Amnon of Mainz who was executed by the local Bishop. No contemporary sources, no other seforim , No other Perushim not even any other piyutim. Nothing.

    #1006182
    oomis
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    Telling the story of the Golem to a very young child is like taking that child to see Frankenstein’s monster. Just because it is a Jewish theme, and a story of how Jews were protected by the Golem, does not make it less frightening. And worse, because it IS Jewish, it is more believable to a child that there could really be such a creature even today. Wait until they are older.

    #1006183
    👑RebYidd23
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    Nonsense can be a wonderful thing. It’s only that there is no point in Henny Penny’s becoming a fox’s lunch.

    #1006184
    HaLeiVi
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    That’s new. Hearing about a Golem protecting Jews would be frightening? I don’t know to whom you are telling these stories, but Jewish children shouldn’t be frightened by that idea.

    I’m very aware that there are stories of Tzadikim that strayed from the original account, or that grew wings. The same is true about history, as well. That doesn’t change the point that you could be telling them stories that are sweeter than these classics, they have depth, they give the child something to think about — that you actually want them to think about — and they are most often true.

    Besides, there are plenty of stories that are very accurate.

    #1006185
    👑RebYidd23
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    As long as you’re careful to tell them which stories are true, it’s okay, but there should be a happy ending for every fairy tale.

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