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    tahini
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    Any tips or suggestions regarding good US universities suitable for a frum young Englishman. Which campuses have most frum Jews? Currently he is in yeshiva in EY, will be there for two years. Very strong academic student.

    #812511
    zahavasdad
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    Queens College, Brooklyn College and YU

    #812512
    squeak
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    What are your criteria for “suitable”? The university is not going to care if he is British, nor that he’s frum.

    If you just want him to see other.frum people on campus (why is that important? Is he going to dorm, or be part of the social scene?) then any CUNY campus meets that criteria. But if that’s all you care about then just send him to BMG.

    #812513
    zahavasdad
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    Queens College has Kosher food at most events, there is a Kosher Cafe and other Kosher food available.

    The Professors are also more open to issues relating to jewish holidays like no exams during Sukkoth.

    Queens College also accepts some credits from yeshiva in Israel as college credits

    I am sure Brooklyn is similar, but since I went to Queens I can vouch for it better

    #812514
    zahavasdad
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    Also Queens College because its mostly a commuter School, there is less partying going on and more studying .

    #812515
    popa_bar_abba
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    We need a lot more information.

    Is he looking to go to a 4 year university full time and get a liberal arts degree and then wonder what he should do with it?

    Is he looking to learn almost full time and go to touro 2 nights a week and get an accounting degree in 2 years?

    Is he looking for YU?

    Is he looking to live in Brooklyn and go to Brooklyn college and maybe learn part of the day?

    #812516
    avi e
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    If he wants to get out of the New York area, there is a strong frum community at the University of Maryland, College Park (just outside Washington, DC). If he wants to learn part of the day he can learn at the Yeshiva of Greater Washington. UMCP has an all-you-can-eat kosher dining hall, several minyanim daily. Because it’s a large university, the academic offerings and departments are much broader than at Touro or YU. It’s not for everyone, though; it is a public university, and with that comes a certain reputation, which will certainly be mitigated if he lives off-campus. But if he wants to get “the college experience,” he will certainly get it at UMCP.

    #812517
    EzratHashem
    Member

    He should consult the Chabad on Campus section of Chabad’s website. They can probably tell him where the largest frum populations are on campus. Also, I believe Rutgers, NJ should be mentioned in this list.

    #812518
    MiddlePath
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    I second avi. UMCP is a great school for a frum Jew. I was considering going there for while before deciding to attend the school I am currently enrolled at. UMCP has a large Jewish student body, kosher food, minyanim, and is relatively close to both Silverspring and Baltimore. There is also a campus in Baltimore county itself. There are also numerous schools in the Midwest with kosher food and minyanim close by and a large Jewish student body. UIC, MUOhio, LTU, and UWM are just a few.

    #812519

    Many frum Jews at Yale. Brandeis has a kosher dining room. Queens College is pretty good, but why waltz when you can rock & roll.

    #812520
    tahini
    Member

    Thank you all so much for your tips, You can guess our ignorance because we do not know what BMG, UIC, MUOhio, UWM and so on stands for! Please do elaborate for us! As we ar far away in the UK we want to know he will feel happy and comfortable on campus, he visited the USA last year and was bowled over by the friendliness and proud comfortable jewish identity he saw around him.

    Many thanks again for your advice, especially those which make sense but did not occur to us! Many heads are so much better than one

    #812521
    popa_bar_abba
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    We don’t know what UK stands for.

    Does it stand for Uman Kollel?

    #812522
    zahavasdad
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    If someone is smart enough and with good enough grades to get into Yale (Or any other Ivy League School) then he does not belong in Queens or Brooklyn College

    #812523
    zahavasdad
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    Since you are from across the pond, I might Suggest Brooklyn College instead of Queens college while both are actually in frum neighborhoods, Brooklyn’s is larger

    #812524
    Sister Bear
    Member

    I don’t know if this is an issue for you, but if your not American and not a permanent resident of America, it can be very difficult for you to get financial aid and scholarships.

    #812525
    Yoiske
    Participant

    Hey, Kaufman, I resent that!

    #812526
    L613
    Member

    I HIGHLY suggest Queens College. It’s one of the best secular universities for frum Jews to attend. Plus, it is a ten minute walk away from Main Street in Kew Garden Hills which is packed with Jewish stores, restaurants, etc. Many guys learn part time at some of the small yeshivos in the area.

    If you have the money, I would alternatively suggest Touro College or YU (if you can withstand the hashkafic debate of the place).

    #812527
    netazar
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    OP: I’ll take a stab at it:

    BMG-Beth Medrash Gevoha, Lakewood’s premier yeshiva

    UIC-University of Illinois at Chicago

    MUOhio- Miami University in Ohio

    UWM- University of Wisconsin in Milwaukee

    (with thanks to google, and ignorance of what these schools ar like)

    #812528
    i love coffe
    Participant

    Are you kidding pba?! Its stands for the United Kingdom.

    I seriously hope that was a joke…

    #812529
    supergirl613
    Member

    What about Lander college for men, or St. Johns University

    #812530
    Health
    Participant

    A Bochur should never go to college full time. Either YU, Ner Israel or Flatbush Touro @ nite – where you learn in a Yeshiva during the day!

    #812531
    MiddlePath
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    netazar, you got em all! And one other that I mentioned- LTU, is Lawrence Technological University in Detroit.

    #812532
    tahini
    Member

    Once again CR many thanks, from the UK or GB or whatever you like to call us, really appreciated your advice and suggestions. Many thanks netazar for going over abbreviations for us and everyone else for highlighting what is where etc. We will put this all to our son, he holds a place at a good British University but feels the US is much friendlier and better for us Jews!

    Popa thanks for the Uman Kollel comment, my family were in fits of giggles!

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