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  • #610531
    elik
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    #973214
    147
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    Since Tashlich is a Minhag performed on Rosh haShono, how can one be Mechalel Yom Tov [an Issur mi’d’Orraisso] by driving a car, just to fulfill a Minhag of Tashlich?

    #973215

    Some do Tashlich during aseres y’mei teshuvah.

    #973216
    elik
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    many people go during the week of aseres yemai tesuva

    no reason to get sarcastic when im trying to help other yidden

    #973217
    WIY
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    Elik

    Does it help if you have a handicapped parking plaque? Or will they still tow us?

    #973218
    elik
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    they will prob tow you the lot is for shopping only

    #973219

    I remember last year there were tonz of threads on this, i think they found out that they arent doing this legally and every few months change their name so they wont get caught……

    #973221
    ubiquitin
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    Since Tashlich is a Minhag performed, how can one be over gezeila [an Issur mi’d’Orraisso] by parking on someone’s private property, just to fulfill a Minhag of Tashlich?

    #973222
    LevAryeh
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    I don’t see the problem; just throw the aveirah of g’zeilah into the river.

    #973223
    doverin
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    #973224
    ubiquitin
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    doverin

    According to almost all kofin doesnt mean you can force, it means beis din.

    secondly speaking of midas sedom, please dont justify trespassing. You are in a rush and dont care about rules governing private property? Gezuntehiet. Please dont drei the Torah to justify it

    #973225
    LevAryeh
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    doverin: You’re probably right that it’s not gezailah; see Tosafos to Bava Kama 62b d”h ???? ?????? ??? at the end.

    Kofin al midas sedom would only apply after the fact; we do indeed pasken (Rambam hil. Gezailah 3:9) that zeh neh’neh v’zeh ain chaser is patur (from paying), and according to the P’nei Yehoshua on Tosafos on 20a in Bava Kama that would be the reasoning – kofin oso al midas sedom.

    See Tosafos on 20b (d”h ?? ???????) as to why kofin oso al midas sedom is a comletely independent din when it’s concerning preventing someone from parking there than when it applies to making them pay after the fact.

    The Rambam does not say (correct me if I’m wrong) whether or not Gezel Akum is asur, but the Gemara in Bava Kama on 113b discusses it (saying it’s assur), and the Rambam leaves it out.

    In the first halacha in hilchos Genaivah, though, he paskens that genaivas akum is assur mid’oraysah.

    #973226
    TheGoq
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    The store has a parking lot so that CUSTOMERS can use it to shop at their store if you are not using the parking spot for the purpose of shopping at that store that seems to me be like stealing.

    #973227
    elik
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    have seen ppl begging for their cars back then the mafia says 200 bucks or else

    #973228
    TheGoq
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    Elik there are plenty of other places to go do tashlich the store has every right to use their parking lot for their customers only.

    #973229
    elik
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    agree im not saying they should allow cars to park for tashlich

    just warning people that wont see their little signs they hang up

    where else do people go for tashlich??

    #973230
    TheGoq
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    I dont know where else they can go but alot of Brooklyn is surrounded by water figure something out. They have until Hoshana Rabba so take a chol hamoed trip somewhere with water.

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