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  • #1044567
    Sam2
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    Oh good. You already excluded yourself from Klal Yisrael. No need for us to say it.

    #1044568
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    There your sworn enemies don’t include me

    Well, there are two parties who are sworn enemies. We aren’t categorizing you. You’re free to choose which party you are in. But you’re in one or the other.

    #1044569
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    There is another party of people who have never heard of the conflict, but it’s too late to join.

    #1044570
    voos epes
    Member

    Ok there’s no point in explaining it I see I can’t get my point across

    #1044571
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Bpyidd/voosepis:

    Are you an actual NK-nik, or are you just a sympathizer? That is, at the next demonstration, would I see you there holding a sing about how bad I am, and yelling some maniacal something and not making eye contact with any jews?

    #1044572
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    I wouldn’t mind if someone held a sing about how bad I am. I would find it interesting to see what lyrics people come up with.

    #1044573
    voos epes
    Member

    No I just take the pictures

    #1044574
    HaLeiVi
    Participant

    On Shabbos!?

    #1044575
    Little Froggie
    Participant

    Certain things are doche Shabbos. I suppose you didn’t come across the photo of these ‘characters’ ON SHABBOS doing some kind of ‘pikuach nefesh’ in (I think it was) Iran. Talis, Shtreimal and complete costume… in an anti Israel function…

    #1044576
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    So apparently the head of the NK was beaten by several moslem men in Amsterdam.

    He says it is Israel’s fault.

    #1044577
    OURtorah
    Participant

    voos- if you do claim you are part of NK/ support it/ take pictures for it, then can you please explain to me one thing:

    Why do you think it is a Torahdig thing to run and hug deiners of the holocaust? Why do you run and hug people who call for the destruction of YOU?

    I simply cannot understand this behaviour. If Hitler YEMACH SHEMO was alive today you would be the first one gone. You think sticking up for their little lies and games is getting you anywhere? They hate you just as much as they hate all of us. Why is running to them productive?

    #1044578
    voos epes
    Member

    1 I personally don’t agree with going to events on Shabbos 2 there agenda is anti Israel (the Arabs) there will always be eisev sonei yakov however Zionism gives them a reason to hate us while nk gives them a reason not to

    #1044579
    Sam2
    Participant

    PBA: I saw it reported on something called edited. I tried to research if it was a satire site but couldn’t find anything about it anywhere. It seems too much like satire (along with other stuff on that site) to actually be real.

    #1044581
    Letakein Girl
    Participant

    So you’re saying that if it’ll lower resentment towards Jewish people, it’s okay to (quoting OURTorah here) hug deniers of the holocaust?

    (Btw, I don’t agree that their actions have caused any real change in a positive direction.)

    #1044582
    ivory
    Member

    They are not only denying the holocaust , they are actively pushing fir another holocaust chas vesholom. In which they won’t distinguish between NK and other Jews

    #1044583
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Sam, it was on other sites as well. you can find it by googling the guy’s name. It’s a story from about a year and a half ago.

    #1044584
    voos epes
    Member

    They defended the fact that the holacaust happened btw “Now maybe I can say that at the discussion of the holocaust, I may be the representative, the voice of the people who died in the holocaust because my grandparents died there. They were killed in Auschwitz. My parents were from Hungary. My father escaped and his parents remained. He wasn’t able to get them out of Hungary and they died in Auschwitz as were other relatives and all the communities that they knew. So to say that they didn’t die, to me you cannot say that. I am the living remnant of the people who died in the holocaust and I am here, I believe sent by God, to humbly say, simply to speak to the people here and say, ‘You should know that the Jewish people died, and do not try to say that it did not happen. They did die!’ There are people throughout the Jewish communities, still alive in their seventies and eighties and every one of them will tell you their stories. It is something which you can not refute, but that being said, it doesn’t mean that the holocaust is a tool to use to oppress other people” rabbi Weiss

    #1044585
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    voos epes,

    You don’t mean Rabbi Weiss you mean Yisroel Dovid Weiss. Rabbi Weiss is quite opposed to NK.

    Secondly, you are on very bad footing when a list of atendees includes David Duke.

    #1044586
    voos epes
    Member

    You know exactly what I mean

    #1044587
    OURtorah
    Participant

    voos- thank you for that excerpt. I appreciate your time to show me that excerpt.

    I understand the efforts of NK to try to mend ties with people who hate us so much, but why is it at the expense of being a true Toradig Jew.

    Hashem first and foremost loves the Jewish people, and we must emulate Hashem, why then do they alienate themselves from the rest of us and make everyone look bad in their eyes.

    I go to secular collage. I am in school with thousands of non jews from every spectrum. I don’t need to go hug them to make a kiddush Hashem. I don’t need to empathize with terrorsits who kill my brothers and sisters and call for their destruction.

    There is a diference between trying to mend a relationship, and taking it too far. NK have simply taken it too far.

    #1044589
    Randomex
    Member

    “you can find it by googling the guy’s name.”

    Yosef/Joseph Antebi, specifically.

    #1044590
    voos epes
    Member

    They didn’t hug any terrorists they hugged important Arab political leaders

    #1044591
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Arab political leaders who are terrorists.

    #1044592
    voos epes
    Member

    You have to agree with me that the quote that I posted from rabbi Weiss is right though

    #1044593
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    You have to agree with me that the quote that I posted from rabbi Weiss is right though

    Sure, if you are a moron. But if you have any normaally working brain cells, then you have to laugh and cry at the same time instead.

    #1044594
    apushatayid
    Participant

    Wow, the mental gymnastics people will go through to try and rationalize stupidity.

    #1044595
    apushatayid
    Participant

    Yishmael is a Pera Adam, i’d rather take my chances with Eisav Sonei Es Yackov. At least we have precedent in chazal how to deal with them.

    #1044596
    ivory
    Member

    ” they hugged important Arab leaders”

    Who became important through terror

    #1044597
    Letakein Girl
    Participant

    Voos epes,

    How about you ask your rav what he thinks of NK? I’m certain that he will educate you…

    #1044598
    MDG
    Participant

    “Yishmael is a Pera Adam”

    The construct of the Lashon is that the noun is Pera and the adjective is Adam. Therefore, that means a vilda chaya with d’moose of an adam.

    BTW I have nothing against moose. They are AFAIK kosher animals.

    #1044599
    voos epes
    Member

    @lg I have asked and there’s no problem with it @popa are you saying that. The holocaust SHOULD used as a tool to oppress other people or do you disagree with the fact that the holocaust happened?? Please reread it @ivory achmendinijad publicly declared that he doesn’t have anything against jews

    #1044600
    MDG
    Participant

    “achmendinijad publicly declared that he doesn’t have anything against jews”

    That’s just taarof.

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/137907/ahmadinejad-israel-will-soon-be-destroyed.html

    #1044601
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    No you nitwit, I’m saying that it never has been used as suchan and anyone who would say that is an antisemite, and if they happen to be jewish, it is a decent rayah that they might be from the erev rav, according to the gra.

    #1044602
    voos epes
    Member

    Israel uses the holacaust to get money from Germany to this day where does that money go? Not to the survivors but to the IDF which oppresses people

    #1044603
    voos epes
    Member

    @mdg there is nothing anti Semitic in the link that you gave

    #1044604
    apushatayid
    Participant

    “it is a decent rayah that they might be from the erev rav”

    Just because a Rav permits an Eruv is no reason to lump him together with the NK.

    #1044605
    🍫Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    Israel uses the holacaust to get money from Germany to this day where does that money go? Not to the survivors but to the IDF which oppresses people

    That is a lie! 100% false! I know someone who works for the claims conference and that money goes to survivors, families of survivors and organizations promoting the education of and preservation of holocaust related causes. How many other of your anti-semetic and anti-Torah comments are lies? Who feeds you these sorry stories?

    #1044606
    voos epes
    Member

    That’s something else I’m talking about military aid to Israel from Germany

    #1044607
    MDG
    Participant

    When they say they hate Israel, they mean that they hate Jews.

    #1044608
    🍫Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    you can’t make false statements and then, when someone calls you on it, say that you were talking about something else.

    #1044609
    voos epes
    Member

    That’s completely false if

    I hate Israel do I hate

    Myself ?

    #1044610
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Perhaps you are not Jewish.

    #1044611
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Well, you should ask that “if I hate jews, do I haate myself?”

    Which is a cute question, but of course we know it is very possible to hate oneself.

    Besides, as discussed, their azus suggests they may be from the eirev rav, so we could easily understand that perhaps the eirev rav hates the bnei avraham yitzchok vyaakov.

    #1044612
    MDG
    Participant

    It’s different between us and them. When they say they hate the medina, they mean kill millions of Jews R”L. It’s more politically correct to be anti-zionist than be outright antisemitic.

    #1044613
    voos epes
    Member

    I was talking about money from Germany to Israel in both my posts

    #1044614
    apushatayid
    Participant

    “That’s completely false if I hate Israel do I hate Myself ?”

    Perhaps you hate limburger cheese too, but its besiides the point who or what you hate. Your comments here are simply ridiculous and when called on them you retract or reinterpret what you meant.

    #1044615
    OURtorah
    Participant

    voos- really think about this one, don’t just shun it away. I ask you nicely, because I have not shunned anything you said, I am simply curious into the minds of NK.

    According to NK then, you believe that anti semitism and anti zionism are completly seperate.

    This is where you are incorrect. People who call for the destruction of the land of israel, call for the destruction of the people who live in it- that is your nation. Anti zionism is only a cover up for anti semitism. Thats the truth.

    Yes you can say “but I simply am anti zionist, I wish the state of israel never existed”- but it does. Hashem made it exist, it was part of Hashem’s plan. ntohing in this world happens without a reason, and you can pray all you want for it’s destruction, but many good things have happened because of it. Now am I cheering on the secular government and not running our dear eretz yisroel according to Torah values? No, i’m not running to applud it, I also wish it were different. But that doesnt mean I go and start to propogate hate towards it from within the jewish community.

    The reason the two are linked is because as a JEW, when you go out to the world and be “Or lagoyim”, and you show that you literally hate the state of israel publically, to people who call for it’s destruction, they see that as ” a jew doesn’t care about their land that they were promised”. That is simply how they see it. They hate us for living in it already, they hate us simply because we are not them, don’t add other reasons for them to hate us. If you don’t believe in the state, don’t go yelling it to the presidant of iran. The world needs to see that the jewish people are united and that they cannot crush us.

    #1044617
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    It’s more important to educate yourself about the similarity between yourself and terrorists.

    #1044618
    voos epes
    Member

    I don’t recall blowing myself up lol I advocate for end of war caused by Zionism how am I a terrorist?

    #1044619
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Because you literally agree with the terrorists on every single point.

    You are sick, my enemy. Very sick.

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