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    we have the most interesting discussions at our shabbos meal and seudas shlishis. we were discussing what it means to hate. someone at the table asked “is there anyone that you feel such a hatred towards? even the nazis yemach sh’mam? what about ahmadinejad who wants to wipe out all the Jews?” to which my grandmother and i answered, we don’t know what it means or feels like to really hate someone. its such a strong emotion/feeling. same with love. how do you describe it? you can’t just hate someone or love someone. they are deep and complex feelings. what are your thoughts on this?

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    Love is something that is built. It is seeing the true neshama of a person. It is seeing the great heights that this person can achieve and reach to. You are at awe of his greatness. It is the ability to see the fire burning within him. You also love someone for who they are because that is how Hashem created him, with his own positive attributes. People also use the word love too often to really know what love means. We tend to use love with the way someone looks, does, wears, etc. We shouldn’t love someone just for their physical or materialistic qualities. We should love one for their chessed, love to others, and greatness.

    When we see the evil soul of a rasha and what he does, then we hate it (Hitler). We hate that this person/nation has such an evil inclination and such evil actions. We hate that such a person could reach to such a low level and we don’t ever want to understand such a position. Therefore we reject it because it is alien to us.

    I don’t like to believe that we hate others because of what he did to annoy you. You don’t really “hate” him. Deep down you really love him, but because he bothered you in some way (i.e. mean comment) then you hate that action/part of the person.

    I think now day’s people use the word Hate too often and have lost the true meaning of the word.

    “Just because I don’t like you, it doesn’t mean I hate you”.

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    while i hear what you are saying, i feel that, just like you can’t love someone without having a relationship with them, you can’t hate someone without some connection either. like, hitler for instance. i never really think about him enough to say i hate him. did he do the most horrible thing ever? yes. did he kill millions of our precious neshamos? yes. did he wipe out generations that could have been? yes. but can i truly say i feel a hatred toward him? i don’t know what it feels like to hate. if i would have spoken to him face to face, then i might be able to say i hate him. but can i truly say it now? i hope everyone takes this the way it was meant. i am not saying i like him in any way. angry, furious, sad- yes. but a deep running hatred? what does it feel like?

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