August 16, 2017 9:02 pm at 9:02 pm #1340866
“Just in case you didn’t understand – WYSIWYG = What You See Is What You Get – it is a compliment, as far as the CR goes, meaning that you don’t come across like you’re trying to be someone you are not, and that you appear to be very genuine.”
“My open invitation to make contact with me is limited to the male faction of the CR. Curious as I may be to meet you all, I don’t feel it would be appropriate to socialize or “get to know” the females on board.”
True. Glad to hear you’re Frum.
Although in my case, it would probably be less of a problem since I’m probably old enough to be your mother, and my friends’ kids let me talk to them. Or at least some of them do – it depends on the kid. And some of them seem to go through different stages, and I always have to figure out what stage they’re at.August 17, 2017 6:38 am at 6:38 am #1340954
LuL: I’m sorry I didn’t mention you, I think you do live here. I think you’d be a most amazing person for my wife to meet!! (Sorry she doesn’t respond to”Mrs Froggie”)August 17, 2017 2:59 pm at 2:59 pm #1341276
LF – that’s so nice of you! Thanks! I’m actually in chu”l. right now, so the meeting might have to wait until we are in the same country.August 17, 2017 6:37 pm at 6:37 pm #1341333
It was nice seeing you last time.August 18, 2017 6:20 pm at 6:20 pm #1342660
☢️ 🚭 ☣️ Rand0m3x 🧠🕴️🎲Participant
Actually, I’m curious about the leftist posters, too (you know who you are).August 20, 2017 9:43 pm at 9:43 pm #1343210
Daas Yachid: “I think this entire exercise is one which lends itself to someone being insulted.”
Good point! I sincerely hope that I didn’t offend anyone. If I did, I apologize and hope that you are moichel me. Please let me know if you are not.August 20, 2017 9:54 pm at 9:54 pm #1343217
I’m not.August 20, 2017 10:48 pm at 10:48 pm #1343245
For real or for a joke? I don’t want to have it on my cheshbon that I insulted anyone, even slightly.August 20, 2017 10:59 pm at 10:59 pm #1343256
Are you moichel me for jesting with you?August 21, 2017 7:24 am at 7:24 am #1343273
Midwesterner, did we ever meet?August 22, 2017 12:55 pm at 12:55 pm #1344457
I nearly actually met Yekke2 last night. He texted me that he was at a wedding that I was invited to but could not attend.
We’ll get there…August 22, 2017 4:05 pm at 4:05 pm #1345323
I’m changing my list: Reb Shidduch, Lightbrite, Reb Yidd, Winnie the Pooh, Mammala, Rebbetzin DY and kinderlach, Rebbetzin Joseph and kinderlach, Rebbetzin Meno, Rebbetzin Geordie, Yekke’s mom and sisters, and Randomex’s mom and sisters, and Rebbetzin Froggie and kinderlach, and Gofish and Golfer and all other female posters and all male posters’ wives and kids or mothers and sisters.
If you’re not on my list, it’s an accident and please be moichel (or let me know if you’re not, but only if you’re for real).August 22, 2017 5:56 pm at 5:56 pm #1345353
And yes, I’m moichel you.August 22, 2017 7:37 pm at 7:37 pm #1345369
It would be fun to meet you LilmodU!
You’re one of the few posters that I imagine I have a clear picture of.
A lot of others have me wondering how much of what they’re typing is really who they are and how much is an avatar of sorts created for blogging.
It would be interesting to find out how far the mental image is from the real you.
For your part you’d probably find exactly what you expected in an ordinary sort of way.August 23, 2017 8:47 am at 8:47 am #1345475
Thanks for the compliment, Golfer!
I agree with what you said about the other posters.
I also think that I come across the way I really am.
“For your part you’d probably find exactly what you expected in an ordinary sort of way.”
Not sure what you mean by that.August 23, 2017 1:40 pm at 1:40 pm #1345731
“I think this entire exercise is one which lends itself to someone being insulted.”
without questionAugust 23, 2017 4:52 pm at 4:52 pm #1346453
Haleivi: Not that I’m aware of.August 23, 2017 4:57 pm at 4:57 pm #1346469
(Psst-mazel tov!)August 23, 2017 5:35 pm at 5:35 pm #1346484
What I meant was- if I was to meet you then obviously you would also meet me. And for your part, that’s most likely the impression you’d have.
IMHO people should try not to be insulted by comments of anonymous faceless entities on their computer screen that can be zapped into oblivion with the click of a mouse.
We have enough to keep us busy in Elul finding forgiveness in our hearts for the real live speaking breathing humans who insult us.August 23, 2017 5:54 pm at 5:54 pm #1346492
Golfer-i think your opinions are both humble and valued. And I agree that people *should* try not to hey insulted but let’s be honest, anonymous faceless entities are living breathing people and their insults hurt as much as their compliments warm. Sure they may be bullies or meanspiriyed poking at you for invalid reasons that shouldn’t be personalized but the same goes for real life bullies at school or work. Having a name and a face may magnify the insult but ask anyone who has been hurt and they will tell you it hurts nonetheless. We have heard it expressed here many times. Even tho some would love to absolve themselves from responsibility by calling it a human right, that is not the Torahs way.
(The doesn’t mean you aren’t welcome to come by for coffee on your next trip to Chicago tho…)August 23, 2017 6:05 pm at 6:05 pm #1346497
Golfer, while you are right that each person should work on himself to be moichel others, IMHO, you can’t tell people that they shouldn’t be insulted by people who insult them. And the fact that it’s a “computer person” doesn’t matter. They are still real people. That concept has come up before (by others) and I think it’s ridiculous.
It may happen occasionally that someone is insulted by something ridiculous in which case, PERHAPS, one can tell them that (but be very careful before deciding that it’s ridiculous or that it’s your place to say so), but that has nothing to do with whether or not they are computer people.
In fact, I think that it can be easier to be insulted by people in the CR than in real life. For one thing, in real life, you can choose who you talk to, whereas in the CR, you can only choose whether or not to be in the CR.
Also, in real life, it is easier to let people know if you are insulted: They can see your facial expressions, and it is easier to have a conversation with them. In real life when people insult me, I let them know so that they can have the opportunity to ask me mechila and not get gehinnom. In the CR, it is not possible to do that, and it really concerns me.
I think that it is a big Mitzvah to let someone know (politely) if they insulted you, and really cruel not to.
Again, on the person’s part – of course he should work on not being insulted and/or being moichel, but I don’t think that’s something that you can tell others to do (and it isn’t always a healthy approach -many people need to work on validating their feelings)August 23, 2017 6:17 pm at 6:17 pm #1346502
I hear you Syag.
I’m absolutely not trying to absolve anyone of the obligation to keep their comments kind and considerate.
I was trying to suggest that on the receiving end it might be wise to keep our feathers smooth and unruffled.
But I do agree with you.
And thanks so much for the invite. I’m sure you’ve deduced by now that I’m nesting a fair bit east of your home, but you never know…August 23, 2017 6:17 pm at 6:17 pm #1346501
Golfer – I hope you weren’t insulted by my strong response! I just saw SYAG’s (after I posted) and I see that she said the same thing but less strongly.
Let me know if you’re insulted, so I can ask you mechil (and I am serious).
And you’re definitely welcome for coffee!August 23, 2017 6:49 pm at 6:49 pm #1346527
Hello again LilmodU.
So while we’re on the topic of insulting and getting insulted, I encountered a bit of a CR problem myself right here.
Our kind hardworking mods released Syag’s post for publication while still keeping yours under wraps for consideration. I responded to Syag, but after your wise words were disclosed later it looked as if I had ignored you and responded to Syag while overlooking your post.
I know you realize that was never my intention.
As for my being insulted, no, not at all.
Where may I join you for coffee?August 23, 2017 8:49 pm at 8:49 pm #1346592
I Can Only TryAugust 23, 2017 9:17 pm at 9:17 pm #1346594
WarriorAugust 24, 2017 5:31 pm at 5:31 pm #1346916
Syag: Thank you!! Does this personal wish of Mazel Tov mean we have to acknowledge that we’ve already met?August 24, 2017 6:56 pm at 6:56 pm #1346925
ha ha, I guess so. Or that I’m an experienced stalker….August 25, 2017 1:03 am at 1:03 am #1347029
Golfer – you’re safe! B”H, I only saw both of your responses now at the same time. Actually, I even kind of saw your second one first, since I went to the bottom of the page first and as I was shifting up to where I left off, I saw your second post first.
I actually had not yet seen your post before I posted my apology since it wasn’t up yet (even though you might not be able to tell from the order that the posts were modded, although you can tell from the numbers).
As for where you can meet me for coffee, sorry but I don’t know how I would be able to let you know that 🙁
And by the way, I didn’t really think you were insulted – I was just playing it safe. I know that you are not the type to bear grudges or think badly of others.August 27, 2017 11:13 pm at 11:13 pm #1348126
Why engage in wish full thinking
When the likely hood of meeting is slim to none
?August 28, 2017 10:44 pm at 10:44 pm #1349793
LU: By the way, you’re on the top of my list. I felt uncomfortable posting a list of which CRers I’d want to meet in real life, because I don’t want to exclude anyone.
When it comes to male posters, I’d want to see them in their natural habitat, but not necessarily meet them. Just out of curiosity to see if they’re like I imagine.
Yepp yepp 🙂August 28, 2017 11:03 pm at 11:03 pm #1349806
Where is their natural habitat?August 29, 2017 12:45 am at 12:45 am #1349865
Possible male CRers’ natural habitats (at least where I’ve seen frum men in places):
-Men’s section at shul
-Mingling in a group with other men, over drinks and snacks, during Shabbos
-Over there on the couch talking about something after kiddush at someone’s house
-Costco on Thursdays (my natural habitat as well)
-Restaurant on date night with wife
-Restaurant with family
-On the road walking on Shabbos
-At the Rabbi’s home during Shabbos
-In the car driving
-Jewish event, like a big shiur with a visiting Rabbi
Just like basic places where you find people living life, except a little specialized to account for a frum Jewish man’s life
Can you think of any other places where you may find male CRers?
Thanks Joseph 🙂August 29, 2017 12:56 am at 12:56 am #1349888
No, I must thank you. Now I know where to repose.August 29, 2017 1:17 am at 1:17 am #1349904
Lol… seriously lol Joseph 😄August 29, 2017 1:37 am at 1:37 am #1349882
Kitov, wishful thinking is one of the most fun kinds.August 29, 2017 3:12 am at 3:12 am #1349945
I’d like to meet The Wolf, oomis, Lightbrite, and CTLAWER – the four of them are the most down-t-earth and seemingly real people in the CR. Unfortunately, at least 3 of them (maybe even all four) live in the states, and since it’s fairly rare that I’m back there, I don’t think a meeting would ever happen.August 29, 2017 3:17 am at 3:17 am #1349939
LB -thanks so much for the compliment!
By the way, I would have said “in the Beis Medrash”August 29, 2017 3:17 am at 3:17 am #1349931
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