Yated, Hamodia, Jewish Press? What Is Your Choice?

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  • #707646
    apushatayid
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    “I forgot, the Talmud refers to Kimchis and Beruriah by name.”

    The Yated publishes Caroline Glicks name, every week too.

    #707647
    twisted
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    Mw, would you like to elaborate on what is illogical or intolerant, I was not very explicit with shitos or people in an effort to be polite in a forum that sorely lacks politeness, lately.

    #707648
    apushatayid
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    This is pointed to all those who appluad the fact that the photos of women do not appear in the papers under discussion.

    How do you feel, when you see the pictures of the female Mumbai kedoshim flash on your screen while logged on to YWN? Are those pictures of females allowed? The YWN photo album is filled with many female photographs, do you protest?

    #707649
    HaKatan
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    twisted:

    You ignored the others who did post logical and coherent arguments (and did not answer them) but chose instead to focus on those who may have ventured beyond the line. You then used that as an excuse to ignore the legitimate position of the opposing side.

    Your statement that “What you are fighting is the disease of creeping isms defended by insecure and frightened people.” is mainly a projection; in other words, you’re really looking at “yourself” (your position) in the mirror.

    You seem to insist that those who believe these publications should not put in photos of women, in light of kol kevuda bas melech penima, as has been mentioned numerous times, are “insecure and frightened”.

    You can come up with sevaras to eat treif, too, or for any aveira or “improper behavior” (the yetzer hara does it all the time, to our detriment). But that doesn’t make the aveira (or impropriety, as the case may be) go away.

    Again, we are not radicals and women do appear in the public eye as needed and they live normal happy lives, BE”H, as they drive, work, run errands, etc.

    But at the end of the day, a women’s dignity is clearly enhanced if she is not placed in the public eye. That is debatable only if one subscribes to “isms” like “feminism” and “women’s liberation”, which are quite contrary to our Torah. It is also debatable only if one is too “frightened” to submit one’s world-view to conform with, rather than CH”V bend, the Torah.

    Some seem to feel that, essentially, it is better that a woman sacrifice some of her dignity so people can see her as a role model or for some other possibly noble purpose. But noble purposes do not override her dignity as a bas melech and, thus, that would seem counter-productive and ultimately, not the ratzon Hashem.

    I respect Jakyweb’s position and have taken time to respectfully present my view with regards to Jakyweb’s points. But your comment seems disrespectful and condescending to those who do not agree with you.

    #707651
    deiyezooger
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    Can we get back on topic? which newspaper do you like most. its suppose to be a light conversation. perhaps the dialouge about pictures should have its own thread.

    #707652
    mw13
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    HaKatan:

    As usual, excellent post.

    twisted:

    I did not say that your comment was “illogical or intolerant”. I was simply pointing out that saying “Note that as yet you did not receive an apology fron the “ben torah” nor was “helpful” very polite. The discourse will not always be rational and you will see the circling of the wagons.” isn’t exactly the most “polite” thing to say, either.

    That said, I will quote you a comment that I would most certainly classify as “illogical and intolerant”, “not always… rational”, “[not] very polite”, etc, etc.

    “are you smoking something stale, myfreind? Upended? lost chance? clearly indicated? drivel? You seem to read a lot into plain Q&A. Were you the class bully as a child?”

    Recognize it?

    #707653
    Helpful
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    None of these papers are Daas Torah. They are merely the viewpoints of various Baalei Batim.

    #707654
    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    None of these papers are Daas Torah. They are merely the viewpoints of various Baalei Batim.

    Do any of them present themselves to be otherwise?

    The Wolf

    #707655
    HaKatan
    Participant

    mw13, Thank you. I appreciate your kind compliment, even if I am not quite so deserving of it.

    Wolf, I don’t believe any of them present themselves as being under the authority of any gadol/gedolim, nor as endorsed by the same.

    However, HaModia does give me the impression that it is run by people who are in close connection to some unknown Torah institution (and its leader(s)) and are, therefore, more strict with what they write or don’t write, etc., while Yated seems to be more independent and run by the publisher’s personal hashkafa with, I imagine, some input from whomever he feels he should be shoel eitzah from. I do respect both, personally.

    The Jewish Press, on the other hand, seems to do whatever the publisher feels is appropriate, which I also respect.

    #1671288
    One Thought
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    Can I revive this topic? I wonder if public perception has evolved in the last 8 years.

    #1671345
    Sam Klein
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    I get the hamodia but don’t read it cause I already read the news ONLINE all week long. I just get it for my family.

    While between Yated and Hamodia I would choose Yated first cause it all comes in one folding and read together while the Hamodia comes with separate sections of local news and international news etc… And can therefore get lost and all mixed up papers lying around

    But the best thing for you would be “no news is good news”

    Fact about news is that NEWS IS ALWAYS BAD cause no one cares about some stranger who won the lottery or someone who took a strange vacation etc….

    #1671359
    👑RebYidd23
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    “Avoid hard truths” is not the best philosophy.

    #1823320
    Jzq
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    Yeah bombmaniac because ZMAN totally never egzadrats

    #1823714
    ChananiaL
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    The quality of the writing in Hamodia is far superior to Yated, and frankly more sane and intelligent.

    #1823729
    banjobob
    Participant

    Baltimore sun

    #1824242
    Jzq
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    You mean Isreal sun Baltimore snow home

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