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Dangers of Fireworks and Explosives

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  1. flatbush27
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    I copied this from another Jewish news website: (the jewish news website) would like to remind all readers of the dangers of dangerous fireworks and explosives often purchased by children and teens before Purim. To accentuate just how dangerous they can be, note that a report out of Israel today states that a frum boy lost five fingers after playing with Purim firecracker. The 14-year-old boy was injured today after a Purim firecracker he was holding exploded, “tearing five fingers off his hand and launching shrapnel into his face,” according to The Jerusalem Post. An MDA team evacuated the youth to the Soroka Medical Center in Beer Sheva.

    The boy told the medical crew that the firecracker went off during an attempt to increase its force.

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    Following the incident, MDA Director-General Eli Bin called upon parents to prevent their children from purchasing dangerous explosives that could cause severe handicaps such as that day’s incident, “or even worse.”

    In other Purim news, on Monday a serrated plastic wheel from a gragger that was handed out to children in a nursery school seriously endangered three-year-old Ayala Levy, who was saved by a gastroscopy under general anesthesia at Kaplan Medical Center in Rechovot, Israel.

    Shmaya, the girl’s father, said that soon after the graggerswere handed out, Ayala began to chew it and the small part dislodged itself into her mouth. The nursery school teacher quickly called for Magen David Adom medics, who gave her first aid and rushed her to the hospital.

    Dr. Michal Corey, a pediatric gastroenterologist at Kaplan, said Ayala arrived vomiting and complaining of pain in her neck and throat. She underwent imaging, and the piece of plastic was found stuck in her esophagus and preventing the entrance of food.

    Under general anesthesia in the operating room, the child underwent a gastroscopy, in which an optic fiber is introduced into the body to view inside. Corey managed to pull the two-centimeter plastic disk out without having to perform a major operation. An hour later, the child was able to speak, walk, eat and run.

    Her father warned all parents to pay attention to all small objects within their children’s reach, especially around Purim.

    They can enter not only the esophagus, but also the trachea and choke the child. Corey added that only food should be allowed to enter small children’s mouths, and even food should be sliced or chopped up into small, safe bits.

    Child safety experts note that toys that have parts as small as a penny should not be within the reach of children under age four.

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  2. SJSinNYC
    always pleasant

    Kids should NEVER be allowed to play with fireworks. Thanks for the reminder.

    (Hey, we finally agree on a post! I guess Adar really brings about v'nahapoch hu)

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  3. YW Moderator-39
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    why does it say 2 posts if im the only one

    I have figured out the reason for this occurrence. When a new topic gets started, it is shown to the mods under 2 categories. Posts for Moderation and Topics for Moderation. If we accept it initially under the 'Topics for Moderation' it goes up straight away, saying 1 post. However, since we are more often than not in the section 'Posts for Moderation' a moderator will approve it when approving others. This does not yet put it on the site, as the moderator will still need to give the approval under 'Topics for Moderation' Since it has been approved twice, it lists it as two posts.

    This is also why it WILL take longer for a new topic to start versus a standard reply in an existing topic.

    Hope this provides clarity,
    YW Moderator-39

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  4. YW Moderator-39
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    thanks mod39, that is a great answer! it's fun to get a peek behind the scenes!

    Thanks. I'm STILL having fun learning the (and being)'behind the scenes'

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  5. squeak
    Makes smalltalk with the 2 most intellegent beings on Earth

    39 - youda man!

    Posted 3 years ago #
  6. Mayan_Dvash
    Member

    It was with hashgacha pratis that the child ingested the toy (through the esophagus as opposed to inhaling it (down the trachea).

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  7. Jothar
    F.M.C.R.S. and occasional creator of chaos.

    Good thing u only posted the text- the original article had a rather gruesome picture with it...

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  8. flatbush27
    Blocked

    sjs- i know right!!

    jothar-the picture was really gruesome and disturbing.

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  9. 22OldGold
    Member

    Aren't those things illegal anyway?
    Cap guns are all we have where I come from and those burst your ear drums.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  10. flatbush27
    Blocked

    where do you come from? cause here one kid goes to chinatown and buys a ton of illegal stuff and then resells it in school.

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  11. yankdownunder
    Member

    Fireworks are very dangerous and noisy. The fact that people have been seriously hurt using them is enough of a deterrent. The Rabbis in a strong statement need to discourage purchasing them. All you need is the wrong boy to use them. Firecrackers I think are made from Gunpowder making them a sakana. As a side note the use of Cap Guns during the reading of the Magilla is very irritating and annoying. Again firecrackers are made (I think) from an explosive. If we are responsible for each other why encourage purchasing and using them during Purim.

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  12. TJ
    Member

    There are also the problems of chovel bachaveiro and bal tashchis d'gufo as a result of the potentially permanent damage inflicted on people's hearing.

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  13. Joseph
    Sometimes A Bit Over The Right

    tank, I agree that it is absolutely ridiculous the noise emanating from these various devices used during megila leining.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  14. David S.
    Member

    for pikuach nefesh reasons people should not use these firecrackers, they are dangerous.
    firecrackers and other explosives are prohibited d'oyraysa.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  15. amichai
    Member

    hatzolah in israel has come out with posters on the dangers of firecrackers and prizes for children that do not use them for the month of adar. the ad must be signed by the parents. if i'm not mistaken these posters were printed in the religous papers so people all over will see them.it was presented in a very beautiful but serious manner. we heard on the israeli news last night a boy had his fingers burned badly from the use of firecrackers. we should all have a happy and safe purim.

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  16. flatbush27
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    david s. why are firecrackers assur dioraysa? they are extremely dangerous to kids, but i dont see how that makes them an issur dioraysa.

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  17. David S.
    Member

    pikuach nefesh for children, they should preserve their bodies, endangering themselves is against that

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  18. flatbush27
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    ok i understand that to kids, but for adults i dont see an issur

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  19. Jothar
    F.M.C.R.S. and occasional creator of chaos.

    Check out the picture on the matzav article and you'll see why it's deoraysah.

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  20. David S.
    Member

    flatbush27 read this, copied from the URL: http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/fworks.htm

    How big is the problem?

    In 2006, eleven people died and an estimated 9,200 were treated in emergency departments for fireworks-related injuries in the United States.1
    An estimated 5% of fireworks-related injuries treated in emergency departments required hospitalization.1
    Who is most at risk for fireworks-related injuries?

    More than two-thirds of all fireworks-related injuries in 2006 occurred between June 16 and July 16. During that time period:
    one out of every three people injured were children under 15 years of age;
    about three times as many males were injured as females; and
    young people under twenty sustained nearly half (47%) of all injuries from fireworks.1
    People actively participating in fireworks-related activities are more frequently and severely injured than bystanders.2
    What kinds of injuries occur?

    Between June 16 and July 16, 2006:
    The body parts most often injured were hands (2,300 injuries), eyes (1,500 injuries), and the head, face, and ear (1,400 injuries).1
    More than half of the injuries were burns. Burns were the most common injury to all body parts except the eyes and head areas, where contusions, lacerations and foreign bodies in the eye occurred more frequently.1
    Fireworks can be associated with blindness, third degree burns, and permanent scarring.2
    Fireworks can also cause life-threatening residential and motor vehicle fires.1
    What types of fireworks are associated with most injuries?

    Between June 16 and July 16, 2006:
    Firecrackers were associated with the greatest number of estimated injuries at 1,300. There were 1,000 injuries associated with sparklers and 800 associated with rockets.1
    Sparklers accounted for one-third of the injuries to children less than 5 years of age.1

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  21. moish01
    Member

    David, more kids probably die from lead poisoning than from firecrackers. come on! if that were the case it would be assur to drive or even cross the street (with the light)

    definitely more people die from that than from firecrackers.

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  22. noitallmr
    Member

    Since when has fireworks been a craze on Purim? Certainly not in my day as a Bochur.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  23. flatbush27
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    david s. i agree with you by children. why is it assur if a mature adult does them in a safe open area

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  24. David S.
    Member

    still people don't lauch firecrackers every day do they moish? if you multiply the firework casualties by 363, it will surely be more casualties than driving, that happens every day!

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  25. flatbush27
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    i highly doubt that david. car accident casualties will be much more than firework casualties even if ppl did it everyday.

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  26. moish01
    Member

    we're not comparing here. torah and halacha are emes without comparing anything, right? so safe is safe and unsafe is unsafe. regardless of statistics.

    ;) i love getting all frum on everyone around here

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  27. squeak
    Makes smalltalk with the 2 most intellegent beings on Earth

    This is the old argument over why people make a fuss about owning a gun when more children each year die from swimming pool accidents. Freakanomics author postulates that it is the shock value of the type accident that drives the issue and not the numbers. Same for firecrackers.

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  28. moish01
    Member

    squeak, i hear what david's saying. but according to his logic, anything that's unsafe should be assur. including dunkin donuts.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  29. David S.
    Member

    moish you didn't need to say that part in the end, I already understood it from the post ;>|), but it seems a bit self-contradictory, considering your previous post lol

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  30. YW Moderator-39
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    There is also the risk vs, reward factor.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  31. squeak
    Makes smalltalk with the 2 most intellegent beings on Earth

    Feel free to pen Modanomics.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  32. moish01
    Member

    no, i did not contradict myself. i was just using that as an example.

    IF _____ and ______ are assur because of XXX
    THEN if _____ and ______ have XXX they must be assur too.

    simple logic. doesn't work, though so i guess you're wrong.

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  33. David S.
    Member

    NOW I get it. sorry moish

    Posted 3 years ago #
  34. moish01
    Member

    and i don't learn gemara. shame on you!

    Posted 3 years ago #
  35. TJ
    Member

    (1.) Regarding sakanas nefashos: driving, unlike firecrackers, is something that dosh bei rabbim.
    (2.) There is a high risk of non-lethal injury, which brings up the issurim of chovel bachaveiro and bal tashchis d'gufo.
    (3.) Pikuach nefesh and external damage aren't the only factors here. Firecrackers cause hearing damage that can become permanent depending on the level of exposure. (Often people don't even realize that their hearing is damaged until they take a hearing test. Or they might notice that they need to turn up the volume on the shiurim they listen to, or that they are more frequently asking people to speak up). In the unlikely scenario that the only person whose hearing is affected is the person making the noise, it is still assur because of bal tashchis d'gufo.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  36. moish01
    Member

    TJ, that doesn't contradict the point i was making to David, but honestly - who asked you?? ;) jk - i purposely didn't say any of those things... i wanted to avoid the direct problem...

    Posted 3 years ago #
  37. Jothar
    F.M.C.R.S. and occasional creator of chaos.

    Good post, TJ. I once heard that the Rabbonim did want to assur driving, but my brother challenged me on this and I couldn't find an actual mekor for it. I did hear that tackle football and skydiving are assur, but as always, ask your LOR. I remember playing touch football on friday with some Yeshiva chevra, which is muttar according to everybody, and some kid got sandwiched by some "rough touch" types and suffered a bruised kidney, which he discovered hours later. Some other guys used to play tackle, and it seemed like every week someone else broke a finger.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  38. moish01
    Member

    TACKLE FOOTBALL?? oh God! i don't think i'll ever be THAT frum then... i have no hope...

    Posted 3 years ago #
  39. kapusta
    CR Queen - “Best of luck. Avoid roasted cabbage, don’t eat earwax, and look on the bright side of life!”

    moish one day youll be doing daf yomi (maybe even in the CR-you could get your own thread) dont count your chickens before they hatch

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  40. David S.
    Member

    i play soccer alot, sorry, im not a big fan of tackle football, I'd get a black eye and broken ribs in the 1st 20 seconds lol

    Posted 3 years ago #
  41. moish01
    Member

    yeah well we only play tackle in the winter when everyone's wearing big puffy jackets. and yeah we end up with a few broken bones. (usually fingers and noses, but of course i had to be the one with the leg injury)

    looks like it's the end of our tackle season - today we played touch - the weather was too nice.

    kapusta, if i ever do daf yomi i doubt it'll be on here.

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  42. kapusta
    CR Queen - “Best of luck. Avoid roasted cabbage, don’t eat earwax, and look on the bright side of life!”

    moish that I'll give you but I'm happy you openly admit that you might do it one day because this queen is pretty sure you will... :)

    Posted 3 years ago #
  43. an open book
    Member

    moish01: yeah aren't you the living example of why ppl SHOULDN'T play?? ;)

    Posted 3 years ago #
  44. moish01
    Member

    well i used to say that it's worth it... i gotta rethink that one over again ;)

    Posted 3 years ago #
  45. an open book
    Member

    yeah....puffy coats dont really protect legs much :(

    Posted 3 years ago #
  46. moish01
    Member

    hey none of us ever died playing football. more people die from eating donuts and drinking coke.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  47. an open book
    Member

    "none of us"....nobody i know died from donuts or coke. or fireworks for that matter.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  48. kapusta
    CR Queen - “Best of luck. Avoid roasted cabbage, don’t eat earwax, and look on the bright side of life!”

    or football (just to even out the score) how in the world did a topic called dangers of fireworks and explosives turn to football donuts and coke? :)

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  49. yankdownunder
    Member

    Does our Purim need a big bang to make us happy? I say the Gadolim should assur all fireworks gamarno. one child or adult injured is one too many!!!

    Posted 3 years ago #
  50. noitallmr
    Member

    "need a big bang to make us happy"

    You sound like Darwin!!!

    Posted 3 years ago #

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