How to make Schmaltz Herring

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  • #613150

    ukguyinEY
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    Hi

    I really want to make my own schmaltz and pickled herring is there anyone who can tell me how to please

    Thanks

    #1193783

    einav brosho
    Member

    the first thing you need is good quality fish (herring). you can buy them at many kosher fish stores or there is a canned option. i like to soak the fish in water overnight to remove natural salts an “fishy” taste. for schmaltz you just need onions, oil, and salt to taste. you can experiment with fresh garlic, course black pepper, chili flakes, and lemon zest.

    #1193784

    zahavasdad
    Participant

    I have only one question?

    WHY would anyone want to do such a thing

    Schmaltz Herring is one of the nastiest foods ever invented.

    #1193785

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    You need to catch them first. Try the north seas near norway.

    #1193786

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Can I just give directions to Schwartz’s?

    #1193787

    Avram in MD
    Participant

    zahavasdad,

    It might come as a surprise to you, but the fact that you don’t like a certain food doesn’t preclude others from liking it. Other human beings are separate from you, and have their own ideas and tastes.

    #1193788

    zahavasdad
    Participant

    In my Shul Kiddushes, the Baal Simcha somestimes brings the Schmaltz Herring. It is never eaten. The entire table of food will be wiped clean except for the Schmaltz Herring (Even the Egg Salad is eaten before the Schmaltz Herring). total baal tashichs

    #1193789

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    That’s because you didn’t invite me.

    #1193790

    nishtdayngesheft
    Participant

    I guess it would make sense that at a kiddush where egg salad was served, there would be herring left over. There was a story about someone asking a related shaila to R Elyashiv.

    I find the egg salad at a kiddush much more disturbing, and I personally do not enjoy herring.

    However, I see that millions of people enjoy herring very much. I am not arrogant enough to thus say that it is the “nastiest food ever invented”, because I personally do not enjoy it.

    BTW, is “baal” tashchis a new avodah zorah?

    #1193791

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Avraham in MD, that may be true, but still, it baffles me that some people like disgusting things.

    #1193792

    oomis
    Participant

    Herring is not the nastiest food ever. That distinction belongs to p’tcha.

    #1193793

    zahavasdad
    Participant

    They dont usually like serving Egg Salad either, because people only eat it when there is nothing else to eat.

    #1193794

    zahavasdad
    Participant

    Now I am curious, Did someone actually ask Rav Elyshiv a Shalia what foods to serve at a Kiddush or a similar question?

    #1193795

    TheGoq
    Participant

    Mmmmm fond memories of my hometown shul where the men would have a bissel shchmaltz herring and eat it on a piece of sponge cake and down it with a shot of schnapps.

    #1193796

    takahmamash
    Participant

    Mmmmm fond memories of my hometown shul where the men would have a bissel shchmaltz herring and eat it on a piece of sponge cake and down it with a shot of schnapps.

    In the shule where I grew up, the old men would eat this after shacharit every morning – except they put the herring on leftover stale kichel.

    #1193797

    ukguyinEY
    Participant

    Thank you einov beroishoi for the only one who managed to stay on topic.

    Do I just mix it with onions oil and spices and then it’s ready to eat straight away?

    Also what about pickled?

    Thanks

    #1193799

    Avram in MD
    Participant

    zahavasdad,

    In my Shul Kiddushes, the Baal Simcha somestimes brings the Schmaltz Herring. It is never eaten.

    I see the opposite at my shul; the herring is usually eaten up.

    rebyidd23,

    it baffles me that some people like disgusting things

    To those who like it, it’s not disgusting. And there are probably foods you think are delicious that others with different cultural backgrounds would find disgusting.

    ukguyinEY,

    Thank you einov beroishoi for the only one who managed to stay on topic.

    It’s the minhag hamakom of the CR to go off topic, especially when you open controversial topics like schmaltz herring. If you want threads that don’t run the gamut, you should stick to less controversial matters, like tznius, working vs. learning, etc. 🙂

    #1193800

    zahavasdad
    Participant

    Yeah there should be an asifa on Schamltz Herring. Just think how many Tsuris of the yidden have been caused by Schmaltz Herring

    #1193801

    nishtdayngesheft
    Participant

    The shaila was related to someone who showed abhorrence to a distinctly Jewish food and how this related to a sofek in the person’s yichus.

    R’ Elayashiv ultimately paskened that there should be giyur l’chumura.

    #1193802

    Avram in MD
    Participant

    zahavasdad,

    You organize the asifa, I’ll bring the food… >:)

    #1193803

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    I was kidding.

    #1193804

    einav brosho
    Member

    i think we should start a heimishe essen blog for all delicious foods. herring and ptcha are good for starters.

    to ukguyinEY: the herring should be good straight away but to it should sit overnight for better taste. please tell me how it comes out.

    to make ptcha or gala you need to start with knee bones. these are high in cartilage. if anyone is interested further just ask.

    #1193805

    einav brosho
    Member

    also btw if you’re really in EY then you can buy herring fillets in merkaz hachamutzim neer kikar shabbos

    #1193806

    zahavasdad
    Participant

    Pitcha? Thats even worse than Herring. That truly needs to go to the cullinary scrap heap.

    #1193807

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    P’tcha? Yum!

    #1193808

    zahavasdad
    Participant

    DY

    Do you also like Schav?

    #1193809

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    ZD, actually, yes. I used to have it with sour cream, but it’s been a while. Do they still sell it? I wonder what the bug situation is with schav.

    You must think I’m a horrible person for liking all of these foods.

    #1193810

    zahavasdad
    Participant

    I am not concerned about the Kashruth of Schav, I am not eating it under any circumstances. They do sell it though, usually around Pesach

    Food is very personal thing, everyone has likes and dislikes.

    I do not belive there is such a thing as a “Hemish Taam” You like what you like and dislike what you dislike.

    I personlly love sushi,but I have a friend who calls it bait

    #1193811

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Maybe we could use it to catch herring. 🙂

    Of course there’s such a thing as heimish’e ta’am. It’s the same idea as Persians liking Persian food and Hungarians liking Hungarian food, and the fact that nobody’s cholent is as good as my mother’s (except my wife’s, if she’s reading this). There’s a huge cultural and emotional aspect to food that has nothing to do with how Hashem made our taste buds (although that’s part of it as well).

    #1193812

    ari-free
    Participant

    Pickled herring is what they eat in Sweden. Do you know any Swedish Jews? I certainly don’t!

    Everyone knows that sushi is the one true Jewish food. When I eat sushi I think of R Zushia

    #1193813

    Meno
    Participant

    Anyone make their own herring?

    I’ve been buying fillets from the supermarket (the brand name is Santa Bremor Matjes Herring) and adding sliced onions, black pepper, and canola oil. It’s good, but I’m wondering if anyone has other recipes/ideas I can try.

    (Yea, I know, herring is gross, yada yada…)

    #1193814

    golfer
    Participant

    Here is a bit of advice regarding making herring, in case the posters preparing this delectable dish are male, and have been fortunate to marry a female:

    A true Eishes Chayil will not object if her husband wishes to indulge and eat a little schmaltz herring from time to time.

    However, unless he plans to scrub every surface- accessible as well as inaccessible- in the kitchen they share, with a solution of 50% bleach, 30% ammonia, 10% hydrogen peroxide & 10% hydrogen chloride after embarking on this smelly adventure, said husband is advised to refrain from preparing aforementioned dish.

    You are very welcome.

    warning: NEVER mix bleach and ammonia as it will create toxic vapors!

    Unless, golfer, that was your intent 😉

    #1193815

    Lightbrite
    Participant

    “There’s a huge cultural and emotional aspect to food that has nothing to do with how Hashem made our taste buds (although that’s part of it as well). ” (DaasYochid)

    I’m forever craving my mom’s matzah brie and jam-filled polachinkaz.

    #1193816

    Meno
    Participant

    My wife is a real eishes chayil. She lets me eat herring and I only have to clean the kitchen with fantastik.

    Now back to my original question. Any ideas?

    #1193818

    golfer
    Participant

    Bump.

    … because I feel bad that my toxic comment (thanks for pointing that out Mods) might have scared off posters and derailed this thread, thus preventing Meno from getting his recipe.

    #1193819

    🍫Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    golfer- how very optimistic of you. my thought was that nobody around these days would have such a recipe

    😉

    #1193820

    Meno
    Participant

    I got so exciting when I saw there were new replies in this thread.

    But I guess I’ll just have to stick with my boring old recipe.

    #1193821

    🍫Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    sorry

    #1193822

    golfer
    Participant

    🙁

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