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Lying on YWN

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  • Started 1 year ago by popa_bar_abba
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  1. popa_bar_abba
    Incorrigible; semi-retarded; eccentric; perhaps a woman; not Mod 80. Sometimes a bit over the top.

    I realized, that my friends all know I lie, but some of you might not.
    So, here is my מודעה: Everything I say on this site may not be true. Except my halacha stuff, I take that seriously.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. pumper
    with 2 open arms

    thanks for the disclaimer- we didn't realize ;)

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. zaidy78
    Member

    Popa, is your statement a lie, meaning, in reality you never say a lie and always the truth?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. deiyezooger
    Say my name 6 times fast. cmon. TRY IT

    ahah, that's nice, thanks for bringing that point out to us,we will be more careful from now on......

    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. HaLeiVi
    HaLeiVi is Supposedly not Joseph

    So you mean there are still chain saws?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. popa_bar_abba
    Incorrigible; semi-retarded; eccentric; perhaps a woman; not Mod 80. Sometimes a bit over the top.

    So you mean there are still chain saws?

    I meant more along the lines of that I know nothing about ambidextrous people.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  7. binahyeseira
    Too cool to ask for a new subtitle

    wait, is the above statement a lie or the truth?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  8. binahyeseira
    Too cool to ask for a new subtitle

    realized, that my friends all know I lie, but some of you might not.
    So, here is my מודעה: Everything I say on this site may not be true.

    is that the truth or a lie?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  9. popa_bar_abba
    Incorrigible; semi-retarded; eccentric; perhaps a woman; not Mod 80. Sometimes a bit over the top.

    wait, is the above statement a lie or the truth?

    Sorry, the tautology does not work here, since I didn't say I always lie.
    Therefore, if I am lying here, it actually is self fulfilling. So either way it is true.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  10. tro11
    Brother of tro22

    Oh yeah, and also they get binah yeseira!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  11. binahyeseira
    Too cool to ask for a new subtitle

    :)

    Posted 1 year ago #
  12. wanderingchana
    expat

    Two things come to mind:
    1) it's still Adar
    2) is it April 1 yet where you live?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  13. DaasYochid
    Member

    pba,

    Are your hashkofos, even if exaggerated, basically real, or totally made up?

    An example which comes to mind is that the lady whose daughter's seat was stolen should have thrown the alteh bubby, who stole the seat, down the steps. Obviously this was exaggerated, but did you really feel that she should not have been accommodating despite the bubby's rudeness? (If you don't mind, please answer this one seriously.)

    Posted 1 year ago #
  14. popa_bar_abba
    Incorrigible; semi-retarded; eccentric; perhaps a woman; not Mod 80. Sometimes a bit over the top.

    DY: My hashkafos are serious also.

    I think most people would have given in in that case.

    I am actually unsure if it is the right thing to do. It probably depends why you are giving in. If it is because you aren't able to stand up for yourself, then I would actually advise not giving in.

    As far as the old lady, I am convinced she is a horrible bully.

    (But no, I would not throw her down the stairs. I can exaggerate sometimes.)

    Posted 1 year ago #
  15. DaasYochid
    Member

    As far as the old lady, I am convinced she is a horrible bully.

    I'm actually not convinced of anything, because we only hear one side of the story in these cases. But given the story as presented, yes, she sounds like a horrible bully, and yes, one should have the fortitude to stand up to that, but if it were my wife and daughter, (or me in an equivalent situation,) I would hope for the sake of middos and chinuch we would give in, despite not being intimidated.

    Thanks for your response.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  16. Shticky Guy
    Shtick on a Stick :)

    Poppa is your statement a lie

    This reminds me of what I heard re what דוד המלך said in תהלים (or !תהילות)
    אני אמרתי בחפזי כל האדם כזב
    "I say in my haste that all men are liars".

    Someone said that if all men are liars then that he is including himself, and if so the statement could be untrue. But if its untrue then he's not a liar so he said the truth. But if he said the truth then its true that all men are liars in which case his statement would be untrue... Etc etc etc.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  17. pascha bchochma
    Member

    Good to know.

    in full disclosure: I occasionally stretch facts so as to make myself less recognizable.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  18. DaasYochid
    Member

    But if he said the truth then its true that all men are liars in which case his statement would be untrue... Etc etc etc.

    That's not logically correct. A liar is not necessarily someone's whose every statement is untrue. If it were that way, you'd be right. However, a liar could be someone who sometimes lies and sometimes tells the truth.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  19. Midwest2
    Member

    This begins to sound like something from my freshman logic class of the Cretan saying "All Cretans are liars."

    PBA, are you running some kind of experiment?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  20. coffee addict
    Once killed a Troll with his bare hands

    Daas,

    it would make sense if it was a habitual liar

    Posted 1 year ago #
  21. DaasYochid
    Member

    mbachur,

    Yes, but who says it has to mean that?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  22. binahyeseira
    Too cool to ask for a new subtitle

    more complicated is the fact:

    a) i think that whatever i think is true
    b) i also think that not everything i think is true, is in fact true

    And that is the truth. :)

    Posted 1 year ago #
  23. onegoal
    Member

    Popa- Did you know that your screen name next to your post, it is a link to this thread?

    Posted 6 months ago #
  24. charlie brown
    Member

    onegoal, I pointed that out too here:

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/joseph-1#post-321849

    I posted that before I saw your post here.

    It's hysterical that the mods did that!

    Posted 6 months ago #
  25. onegoal
    Member

    CB- It sure is, chocandpatience has a link in her name to the second page of decaffeinated coffee.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  26. popa_bar_abba
    Incorrigible; semi-retarded; eccentric; perhaps a woman; not Mod 80. Sometimes a bit over the top.

    Popa- Did you know that your screen name next to your post, it is a link to this thread?

    Actually I didn't. That is hilarious. I must have missed it when Charlie brown pointed it out also.

    Posted 6 months ago #

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