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  • #609045

    YW Moderator-73
    Moderator

    Some of you* may have noticed that your posts have been sitting unmoderated for extended periods of time. This is due to the fact that your posts are very long. So please do us (and yourselves) a favor and try to keep it brief so we can moderate all posts in a timely fashion. Thanks.

    *This is not specific to any user (though it is specific to some topics).

    #1218878

    YW Moderator-127
    Moderator

    :thumbs up:

    #1218879

    Vogue
    Member

    Does this have to do with people starting topics as one post with several quotations, because I personally find those annoying and do not even read that starting post on that topic, even if I end up reading the rest of the posts for that topic.

    #1218880

    zalman
    Participant

    it includes everything

    #1218881

    DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

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    #1218882

    🍫Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    DY: I can’t believe word #485 on line #62 and word #359 on line #48 got through! MODS!

    #1218883

    DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Syag, I think the line #s vary based on the browser, so you’ve given the mods quite a job. I’m surprised you caught it, and I’m sorry if I offended you.

    😉

    #1218884

    mods, are you able to moderate the shorter ones first and let them go through and then moderate the longer ones because it clearly says in the coffee room rules not to post long megillas. so if they want to, then thats fine but they can be second priority?

    #1218885

    YW Moderator-73
    Moderator

    that is exactly what we have been doing up to this point. but we don’t want to moderate the megillas later–we don’t want to moderate them at all.

    #1218886

    🍫Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    I’ll do them!

    #1218887

    thanx. i try not to post megillas. ive been succesful till now!

    #1218888

    Yserbius123
    Participant

    I would post the ultimate proof to Fermats Theorem, but there isn’t enough room in this comment box.

    #1218892

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    And it came to pass in the days of Achashverosh the same Achashverosh who ruled from Hodu to Cush, one hundred and twenty-seven provinces. In those days, when King Achashverosh sat on his royal throne, which was in Shushan the capital,In the third year of his reign, he made a feast for all his ministers and servants; the army of Persia and Media, the nobles and all the ministers of the provinces in his service.

    #1218893

    nonikname
    Member

    do u guys get paid to be mods?

    if yeah then how much nd how do i get tht job?

    #1218896

    Lightbrite
    Participant

    3yo thread


    Time to do teshuvah on this one.

    Thank you for everything Mods! ?

    #1218897

    Meno
    Participant

    Maybe there should be more mods. Are you hiring?

    #1218898

    YW Moderator-25
    Moderator

    A new rule is being instituted on a trial basis:

    Post length will be limited to 1000 characters (including spaces). This number may be increased/decreased in the future if it isn’t working out.

    As always, it will be left to the discretion of the individual mods whether or not to enforce the rule in each situation.

    #1218899

    DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    There are too many characters in the CR?

    #1218900

    Shopping613 🌠
    Participant

    Mod 25, you aren’t being serious…are you? Early adar shtick? I mean it’s not like there’s a character count so you can even check! I haven’t seen any ridiculously long posts…

    #1218901

    Shopping613 🌠
    Participant

    Ok now I see the clipped stuff… but weve never had this problem before? Sounds a bit extreme. Weve had people write PAGES of stuff and that was a problem, but the posts I see look long but not insanely long. Why is this suddenly a big deal now?

    We plead the fifth

    #1218902

    Avram in MD
    Participant

    <joke>Long rambling posts are endemic to Facebook, and we don’t want any non-Jewish Facebooky stuff over here. Twitter with its 120 character limit is the official social media platform of the Jewish people.</joke>

    truncated

    #1218903

    Little Froggie
    Participant

    #1218904

    YW Moderator-25
    Moderator

    <<ZAP>>

    I’m gonna start using that one. Thanks

    #1218905

    Shopping613 🌠
    Participant

    I’m just…surprised. It’s not like I’m some newbee. I’m about to reach my 5th birthday here and well, it wasn’t a problem until now.

    #1218906

    golfer
    Participant

    You mean it wasn’t a problem for — You!

    Sometimes I wonder how the Mods keep their sanity plodding through some of the longer posts day after day after … Uh oh.

    Before I’m clipped/ zapped/ truncated, let me just say-

    “Brevity is the soul of wit.”

    (…Where have you heard that before?? )

    #1218907

    WinnieThePooh
    Participant

    I think this may encourage translating well written posts into text-speech.

    #1218908

    Joseph
    Participant

    I’m gonna be making a series of posts between 990 and 1010 characters long each, to keep the mods busy counting.

    #1218909

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    DY -lol.

    Shopping – that’s why we have a new moderator – so that she can bring in new ideas.

    Mod 25 -shkoyach on being brave enough to set new policies. I also like the part about discretion being used.

    I’m just wondering how much 1,000 characters is?! I suppose at the beginning, I will have to cut and paste from a word document so I can use word count until I get the hang of it.

    And by the way, how will you guys even know the word count??

    #1218910

    golfer
    Participant

    Or maybe, WinnieTP, it will encourage all of us to think before we hit the keyboard, and write simply and clearly.

    Our new motto can be: Less baloney, more substance.

    By the way, have you read your subtitle lately?

    #1218911

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    Whoa – I just saw my clipped post now. I suspected that’s what you were talking about but that was majorly clipped! And the point was totally missing.

    I realize it was very long, but I should have at least been allowed as much space as the poster I was responding to!!! If I’m responding to someone else’s long post, I can only do so with a long post of my own.

    Whatever. I have better things to complain about. Just expressing myself.

    #1218912

    golfer
    Participant

    Express away, LilmodU!

    But be brief…

    😉

    #1218913

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    Golfer -lol. I just really don’t think that the first (or second) time this new policy was enacted should have been in a response to a long post.

    #1218914

    Little Froggie
    Participant

    <<RELEASED FROM AUTO TRUNCATING DEVICE>>es and punctuation marks. So I really wonder what to do. Oh, and btw, I hope this message wasn’t truncated.

    #1218915

    WinnieThePooh
    Participant

    golfer, using long, difficult words doesn’t mean that the posts are too lengthy, but that one has an advanced, well-developed vocabulary. Anyway, I personally rather read erudite posts than those that are replete with grammatical and spelling errors and are deficient in punctuation.

    translation: wiht long hard words doesnt mean the posts are 2 long but that he knows lots of words anyway i like to reed smart posts better than posts full of bad grammer & speling with no dots or comas

    As far as your motto, if you cut out the baloney, lots of threads will need to be deleted!

    #1218916

    golfer
    Participant

    I hear you, WinnieTP.

    Please note, I said “less baloney”, not- “no baloney”.

    You are correct that a no-baloney-diet would dispense with a good number of threads.

    On the other hand, a too-much-baloney-diet seems to be giving the mods indigestion.

    #1218917

    rebshidduch
    Participant

    No problem, I will definitely try to make sure iyh.

    #1218918

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    Rebshidduch – your posts are usually very short. I don’t think this is a problem for you.

    #1218919

    Meno
    Participant

    I liked baloney when I was a kid. Not so much anymore

    #1218920

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    I’ll try to remember not to send any in your mishloach manos this year now that I know you don’t like it.

    #1389330

    YW Moderator-100
    Moderator

    Bump

    #1389331

    Lightbrite
    Participant

    Did one of us just get called to the principal’s office?

    #1400367

    gavriel613
    Participant

    Looking at this topic maybe you should consider a per-topic max length as well as a per-post max length!

    #1400393

    Joseph
    Participant

    How is breaking up a long post into three separate posts helpful? The moderator needs to read the same material whether it is in one post or three.

    Additionally, if you break it up and the mod approves them in a different order than submitted, the separate posts will appear in incorrect order.

    #1400684

    ubiquitin
    Participant

    “How is breaking up a long post into three separate posts helpful?”

    while I’m not the one “modding” IT is easier to read shorter chunks of drivel (my own included) than a long screed. I imagine this is particularly they for the mods, since they arent judging based on the content, ie how much sense it makes how logical it is etc.
    They just need to screen it to make sure language is appropriate no lashon harah, bizui talmid chachamim etc.
    This is certainly easier to do with 3 shorter posts than one long one.

    #1400700

    DovidBT
    Participant

    Everything worth reading has already been published (somewhere), so there’s no point in posting more than a brief summary.

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