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    Holala
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    Who is at the end of the day the best republican candidate? Not according to polls only what u think

    #1121253
    Joseph
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    Ronald Reagan.

    #1121254
    The Frumguy
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    Jews for Cruz!!

    #1121255
    Ender
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    Ted Cruz, hands down. This is true from a politically conservative standpoint and a pro-Israel standpoint, he is the best in the field in both areas.

    #1121256
    Holala
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    anyone for Donald Duck ? Sorry mean Donald trump !

    #1121257
    WolfishMusings
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    I wouldn’t vote for any of them.

    And before anyone accuses me of baseless partisanism, I wouldn’t vote for any of the Democratic candidates either.

    The Wolf

    #1121258

    Cruz for president

    Trump for entertainment

    Hillary Clinton for corruption and destruction

    #1121259
    Avi K
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    Ted Cruz. He stands foursquare behind Israel and believes in the sheva mitzvot. Trump’s Islamophobia could easily morph into antisemitism (and someone has already written a letter demanding that Orthodox Jews be put on reservations). Moreover, his plan to strongly penalize American companies that invest abroad will harm Israel greatly.

    #1121260
    akuperma
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    1. Cruz has alienated the “establishment” (“Country Club, a.k.a. Wall Street”) wing. He also is probably unacceptable to “neo-cons” (i.e. to Republicans favoring a strong, muscular national defense and foreign affairs policy). Also a Baptist will “raise more flags” on Church-State issues since while Baptists opposed institutional connections between religion and state, they favor using the state to advance their agenda.

    2. Trump has alienated the “establishment” (similar to Cruz, but more so), and as a secularist will have a hard time appealing to “religious” Republicans. Part of the reason he doesn’t mind having a Jewish daughter and grandchildren is that religion isn’t a big part of his life. What Trump believes on issues is unclear since one can argue he’s “playing” the character developed for his TV show, and hasn’t learned to play himself.

    3. Rubio may have trouble appealing to the “angry” constituency the loves Trump, but he could get angrier during the campaign.

    4. Carson can appeal to the “angry” crowd since he isn’t all that different in positions than Trump or Cruz, but instead of swearing at people he says the same things in a more mentchliche way. As a Seventh Day Adventist (a small religious minority), he’s less threatening on Church-State issues than Cruz. He’ll be easier for the “establishment” to stomach than Trump or Cruz. His specific views are more flexible since he’s more into style and principles. He’ll also give the Republicans hope of getting back to the 20% of the African American vote they were getting before Obama, which would make several “blue” states turn purple.

    Conclusion: A Carson-Rubio ticket, with both candidates becoming “angrier” in tone, has the best chance of uniting the Republican party and winning. Cruz or Trump would chase too many Republicans and Republican-leaning independents into the Hillary camp.

    #1121261
    Avi K
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    Akuperma, Cruz does not swear at people. In fact, he handles hecklers very well. You are correct, however, that Rubio has the “establishment”. The question is whether he can attract the Fundamentalists. On the other hand, he will do better with Hispanic voters but could lose anti-immigration hardliners. Perhaps a Rubio-Cruz or Cruz-Rubio ticket would be good. Another possibility is a deal whereby Cruz will support the nominee in return for an important judicial appointment. It should be noted that four of the current justices on SCOTUS are over eighty or will turn eighty during the coming term. While he is bit young and has no judicial experience he is an outstanding attorney. The Repubican establishment might just support him to get him out of the Senate.

    #1121262
    akuperma
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    Avi K: While you (and perhaps myself) would like a Cruz presidency, the reality is that with Cruz we are likely to get Clinton presidency. Cruz has managed to alienate much of the establishment by things such as forcing a shutdown which ends up costing the taxpayers lots of money and accomplished nothing. Cruz isn’t as bed as Trump, but he hasn’t had much success at working with those he disagrees with. — Neither Cruz nor Rubio will impact on the non-Cuban Hispanic vote (by analogy, will Clinton do well among Jews by appealing to the Euro-American vote???). — Carson is current in fourth place, and is the only one of the top candidates who hasn’t alienated anyone. He’s an outsider, a conservative, a religious fanatic (but not from a church with a reputation for disrespecting other religious minorities). Like it or not, the only alternative to Clinton is Carson.

    #1121263
    writersoul
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    This is my first election and I have no idea who on earth I’m going to vote for. I like neither Hillary nor Bernie on the Dems side (Hillary for the obvious reasons, though I don’t consider either her or Obama to be the root of all evil, and Bernie because socialism may or may not work in Sweden but it won’t work here for sure). On the Republican side, I just need someone I can vote for against Trump in the primaries. I’m inclining toward the “regression to the mean” types like Jeb, just because I don’t want to make a decision, except that the odds that he’ll still be in the race by the NY primaries is abysmal. Barring that? Idunno, Kasich, Rubio, who knows. I’m not a flaming fiery type person, and I don’t think that’s what the country needs. People protest against insiders, but it’s insiders who keep the country going and know how to get things done with the least possible mess.

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