Does the soft drink ban go against the Declaration of Independence (We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
how can the government take away this?
Dont worry.
As ari–free posted in the article we can always buy two cups.
Dont worry.
As ari–free posted in the article we can always buy two cups.
and pay more than if we bought a bigger 1
Coffee addict:
"Police power" always includes regulating toxic substances, including food regulation. It is traditionally a local power, which New York City through its elected representative can exercise. If you are unhappy, elect someone else.
The "Declaration of independence" is held not to convey rights (otherwise slavery would have ended in 1776), and in any event, Federal law only affects the Federal government - and you can't blame this one on Obama
It is 100% unconstitutional!!!!!!!!! Just another way america is trying to be like its communist/socialist "brothers"… "a great country… an even greater fall…"- i forgot who said that but its true!- I want the right to bear my sugary drinks! In ONE container! As much as I want…!
The "Declaration of independence" is held not to convey rights (otherwise slavery would have ended in 1776), and in any event, Federal law only affects the Federal government - and you can't blame this one on Obama
I don't think they considered slaves people (3/5 of a person)
and I know I can't blame Obama I wasn't planning on it, it's just another reason why I think "NY is the only state that is at war with it's citizens"
Its actually unconstitutional because it violates the 14th amendment as it is not being applied equally. If it would apply to everyone i could see them getting away with it - i am sure this will be challenged in the courts.
what do you mean "not being applied equally"
this bothers me. i dont want to be dictated to. all it will accomplish is making people with large families spend more money
So the government should legalize marijanna, coke, and heroine.
@coffee addict there are some types of establishments which are allowed to carry the above 160z drinks and some are not
@jbaldy,
oh you mean the restaurants that get grades vs those that don't?
I think it is appalling, when there are so many more serious health issues, that the gov't is trying to police soda drinking habits. They are infantilizing this nation more and mroe every day, and it is a way of controlling us. I personally do NOT drink sugary drinks and have not for over 20 years. But I do not want anyone telling me whether or not I can drink a specified amount.
For all they know, I am buying the Big Gulp because it is cheaper that way, and then portioning it out to all my family members in smaller cups (actually I don't, because I think those drinks are disgusting and of no value unless soemone is having a hypoglycemic attack, but it is still the principle of the thing).
Gov't get out of my kitchen,and do not tell me what to feed my family. I have battled my weight over the years and NEVER drank that junk. Anything consumed in excess will cause obesity. What's next, telling us salt cannot be sold or used inr estaurants, because too many people have high blood pressure? Maybe meat should not be allowed to be served, as so many people have cholesterol problems. Maybe certain medications should be secretly added to processed foods, to counteract the effects of those foods on our bodies. (Are they doing that already???) Heaven help us.
@coffee addict basically. what i meant was anything labeled as a food service establishment is restricted. I would be very surprised if this is not challenged in court.
Many times I go out for Pizza and order a big drink, get some smaller cups and share the big drink among several people. I do the same thing in the movies, share a drink. Also many times the drink has ice in it that takes up part of the space. Just because you are ordering a big drink does not mean you are going to drink the whole thing. And even if tyou do it's none on the mayors business. I wish Mayor Bloomberg would worry about real problems like unemployment, pot holes, traffic, crime etc and not bother law abiding citizens with nonsense.
Ban cigarettes and illegal Mexicans; not soda.
Although if they banned corn syrup, the evil ingredient in soda, I would agree to that. You would then have water, a source for carbonation, flavoring, and sugar; none of which are illegal at this point.
oomis, purrfict!
Just saw this:
Health advice to drink eight glasses of water a day is over the top and does not help with weight loss, says a leading nutritionist.
Fruit, vegetables and juices should have a major role in providing the fluids we need, he added.
Spero Tsindos, an academic and public health expert, also argued that the push to encourage people to drink more water was driven by vested interests.
Tsindos said sales of bottled water had risen in tandem with guidance from bodies such as the National Health Service telling individuals to drink large volumes.He said the NHS had reinforced the notion that two litres or eight glasses of water a day was good for health ‘without any substantial evidence to support it’. If people drink two litres of water in a hurry to make up their daily allowance it will not hydrate the cells that need it - but simply dilute the urine, he pointed out.
Health and dietary authorities generally recommend two litres a day of fluid for optimal health, but ‘this has been misinterpreted to mean two litres of water specifically and it has driven a steady growth in the use of bottled water’, he added.
Tsindos says in an editorial in the Australian and New Zealand Journal of Public Health: ‘Thirty years ago you didn’t see a plastic water bottle anywhere, now they appear as fashion accessories.
‘As tokens of instant gratification and symbolism, the very bottle itself is seen as cool and hip.’
While water was now regarded as a slimming aid, tea and coffee were being wrongly shunned as potentially leading to dehydration. Mr Tsindos, of the department of dietetics and human nutrition at La Trobe University, in Melbourne, added: ‘Drinking large amounts of water does not alone cause weight loss. A low-calorie diet is also required.Research has also revealed that water in food eaten has a greater benefit in weight reduction than avoiding foods altogether.
‘We should be telling people that beverages like tea and coffee contribute to a person’s fluid needs and, despite their caffeine content, do not lead to dehydration.’
He added: ‘We need to maintain fluid balance and should drink water, but also consider fluid in unprocessed fruits and vegetables and juices.’
Independent dietitian Dr Carrie Ruxton said individuals tend not to drink enough.
She added: ‘Drinking water is useful for weight loss, as part of a strategy of eating less and being more active. Research shows a glass of water before meals reduces appetite.
‘I agree that caffeine is wrongly thought to be dehydrating, people can drink up to eight cups of tea or four cups of coffee a day and be reassured that it’s healthy.’
A spokesman for British Bottled Water Producers said the World Health Organisation and the British Dietetic Association recommends the average 60kg (9st 6lb) adult should drink 1.5 to two litres (3.5 pints) of fluid a day.
She said: ‘At a time when many people are overweight and there is a tendency to drink too much alcohol, it cannot be disputed that water is the safest, simplest route to calorie-free, toxin-free, safe and healthy hydration.
‘And if people want to back Britain at the same time, they can do no better than buy British bottled water.’
{The Daily Mail/Matzav.com Newscenter}
So, maybe Herr Gloombergerstein should ban big bottles of WATER!!!
Hi SayIDidIt.
I am for banning the bottles whether water is in them or not.
Plastic = poison.
And for the record, I dont drink or eat anything where a Herr is involved.
: )
BT, you're funny!
All people should be considered equal - meaning, you can use as much equal as you want, just not real sugar!
42, you're funny too!
oomis, purrfict"
SayIdidit - are we being catty? ;)
just havent slept in 34 hours. why not? dunno! going to bed now (if i can peel my eyes away from the CR!)
Did this ban have to happen when they started making drinks for a dollar any size?
Hi Say.
I hope you had a refreshing sleep, and in general, have a good,
deep sleep. : )
Firxt, to BTGuy, it was great! Just got up... :)
Next, THIS IS NUTS!!!!
From YWNews:
Bloomberg Bans Continue: NYC Mulls Limits On Milk, Popcorn
(Wednesday, June 13th, 2012)The board hand-picked by Mayor Michael Bloomberg that must approve his ban of selling large sugar-filled drinks at restaurants might be looking at other targets.
The New York City Board of Health showed support for limiting sizes of sugary drinks at a Tuesday meeting in Queens. They agreed to start the process to formalize the large-drink ban by agreeing to start a six-week public comment period.
At the meeting, some of the members of board said they should be considering other limits on high-calorie foods.
One member, Bruce Vladeck, thinks limiting the sizes for movie theater popcorn should be considered.
“The popcorn isn’t a whole lot better than the soda,” Vladeck said.
Another board member thinks milk drinks should fall under the size limits.
“There are certainly milkshakes and milk-coffee beverages that have monstrous amounts of calories,” said board member Dr. Joel Forman.
Mayor Bloomberg says the drink rules are an attempt to fight obesity in the city. It would limit food service establishments in the city from serving drinks bigger than 16 ounces but would allow refills.
The New York City Restaurant Association is fighting the proposal and is considering legal action of it goes into effect.
New York City voters oppose 51 – 46 percent Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s proposed ban on the sale of over-sized sugary soft drinks, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released Wednesday.
(Source: MyFoxNY)
NEW YORKERS grab your milk,popcorn and soda and RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN!!!!
Our freedom in this country is simply being stripped away from us by the government who "knows" better than us how we should live.
For those of you who applauded all of the anti smoking laws that similarly trampled on our freedoms, congratulations on another round of anti freedom legislation.
This keeps up and we will be denied our freedom to keep the torah and mitzvohs (metzitza b'peh, shabbos observance, shchita etc.).
Why should this country stay different than every other country in history after all?
Welcome to ny- where our personal opinions and choices don't matter!- what else is new?
seriously?!?!?!? Soda they can have!- fine I agree its not so healthy- but MILK?????? MILKSHAKES????????? that they are 100% wrong! just because its high in calories doesn't mean they are bad calories! No one ever became obese from too many milkshakes!!
Isn't it OUR choice what we consume???????? people are not going to have to make decisions about food- pretty soon we are all gonna be told exactly what to buy and when to eat it!
Non-buttered popcorn is extremely healthy, nothing like the empty calories of soda. It is VERY low in calories and has a lot of fiber. Air-popped is even better.
All those nutty right wing tea partiers who were screaming about liberty and how the government is slowly trying to control our lives, they were just plain nutty were'nt they?
I don't see a problem with this legislation in theory. If the residents of a country are prone to making terrible, life-affecting decisions then it's great if the government tries to protect its citizens. Outlawing super-fatty foods is no different, in essence, than outlawing recreational drugs. That being said, some of this seems a bit overboard.
Not sure if anyone else received the text going around about this:
A man in NYC was about to be arrested for having a large can of soda. Before they could put the cuffs on him, he was able to show proof that he was drinking medical Mountain Dew.
@Sam2 first of all its not legislation it is something that was decided by the mayor and was passed off to the health board - if it was ever put to a real vote it would never pass. the rationalization behind outlawing recreational drugs is also, (similar to smoking)because it affects other people and is generally bad for society in ways besides for the drug users health (i hope i don't have to explain this). there is also a major difference between outlawing drugs and mandating personal health choices. the government can advise and incentivise but mandating is a very poor idea. also according to this logic the government should ban beer and other alcoholic beverages above a certain size in food service establishments which they are clearly not.
Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.
--Ronald Reagan
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SiDi™ You forgot the em.
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And, by the way, you forgot your WHOLE signature!! ☺
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