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וכי חולדה נביאה היא??

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  • Started 1 year ago by popa_bar_abba
  • Latest reply from bekitzur

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  1. popa_bar_abba
    Incorrigible; eccentric; somewhere between mean and average; sometimes only a bit over the top; arbitrarily engaged in cynicism.

    Pesachim 9b

    Where else do we find humor in chazal? Post some examples.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. Sam2
    The Even-Keeled and Erudite Shmuely Wollenberger from Las Vegas

    Shavuos 36b. (It's not intended as humor but I find the Sugya hilarious.)

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. bekitzur
    Short and sweet

    For those who want explanation -
    (from a site but I can't post links)

    Her name also plays a part in an interesting Talmudic pun. The Gemara (Pesachim 9b) is discussing what happens if a person leaves bread in his house before Pesach, and then becomes aware that a rodent (Chuldah) has stolen it. May he assume that the Chuldah ate the bread? Perhaps the Chuldah stored it away, and now there is bread in the house!

    One sage in the Gemara suggests that the Chuldah might realize there will be no bread in the house over Pesach, and might hoard the bread. An opposing sage responds, "veChi Chuldah Neviah He?" "Is the Chuldah a prophet?" Of course, this is a pun on the name "Chuldah haNeviah," "Chuldah the Prophetess." [Regrettably, too many people who learn that Gemara don't know who Chuldah is, and thus don't get the pun...]

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. MDG
    Member

    bekitzur,

    Thanks for pointing out the pun. I know who חולדה was, but I did not get the pun when I was learning it today. It's rather funny now :)

    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. YW Moderator-42
    Life, The Coffee Room, and Subtitles.

    Chanan bisha?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. rebdoniel
    Modern/Open Orthodox

    What about the shitot of Rebbi and Rav Zera that one shouldn't laugh too much in this world?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  7. writersoul
    postersheart

    rebdoniel: How much is too much?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  8. Cheery On The Top
    Zeeskite/Oh Shrek

    I think Bar-Kapara's episode with Rebbi (Rabeinu HaKadosh) qualifies.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  9. HaLeiVi
    Plays the aeolian harp by air

    The Sugya in Nida 23 where Reb Yirmiya tried getting Reb Zeira to laugh (and it didn't work).

    Posted 1 year ago #
  10. jewishfeminist02
    jewishfeminist01 + jewishfeminist02

    Hi, this is jewishfeminist02's husband. Before weighing in on this, I must mention that my Rebbe (Rav Yitzchak Blau, son of Rav Yosef Blau - mashgiach ruchani of YU) has an extensive shiur called "Does the Talmud Have a Sense of Humor?" A recording and mekoros can be found on YU Torah.

    Now, here's a few of my own:

    1) Menachos 99b: Ben Dama thinks he knows all of Torah, and wants to learn Greek philosophy. His brother, R' Yishmael (already known for advocating work in addition to Torah - see Berachos 35b) tells him "v'higisa bo yomam v'laila." One of the meforshim says that this means you can learn Greek philosophy during bein hashemashos.

    2) Berachos 63a: One must teach his son an easy and clean profession. What is that? "Needlework" מחטא דתלמיותא. In the context of a machlokes about whether one should engage in a profession or learn full time, suggesting a profession whose shorashim resemble "חטא" and "תלמוד" is probably a pun.

    3) Chagigah 14b: There are lots of serious terutzim and halachos following this one, but it starts off with a pretty funny hava aminah:

    They asked Ben Zoma: Can you castrate a dog?
    Ben Zoma: In chu"l (the pasuk says only "b'artzechem")

    edited. Nice, thanks!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  11. Derech HaMelech
    King's Highway

    (ת"ר שור חרש שוטה וקטן שנגח רבי יעקב משלם ח"נ ר' יעקב מאי עבידתיה ( אימא רבי יעקב אומר משלם ח"נ

    Posted 1 year ago #
  12. rebdoniel
    Modern/Open Orthodox

    There's even a gemara which attests to the fact that a shiur ought to begin with a joke.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  13. bekitzur
    Short and sweet

    I think this qualifies:
    This week's parsha, Devarim, 1:12, rashi "Umasaachem"

    Posted 1 year ago #

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