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A male trying to empathize with the plight of Agunos

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  1. SilentOne
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    I am a male trying to empathize with the plight of Agunos. Approximately 20 years ago I attended an Agudath Israel convention where a group of Agunos tried to make a statement about their plight. At the time I felt some sympathy for their suffering, but did not really have any idea what pain they are going through. Fast forward 20 years, where I am now waiting and begging for a civil divorce from my Halachic ex-wife 2 years after I honored her wishes to give her a Get (her request for the Get was based on the fact that she did not want to live any longer with someone who had chronic depression. I am only revealing her reason so that no wise guy will write in to the CR suggesting that this “SilentOne” guy might be a wife-abuser or some other beast who deserves no mercy). When the Rabbonim told me it was time and that all efforts to save the marriage for to no avail, I gave her the Get quickly, without first securing from her an agreement on the civil issues surrounding the dissolution of the marriage. Naively I thought since she was the one who wanted the divorce, naturally she would be very amenable to have the civil divorce done quickly and fairly. Nothing could have been further from the truth. Now 2 years later, she has resorted to financial blackmail and every delay tactic to keep me from getting the civil divorce so that I am unable to resume my life. (I can’t look for a Shidduch without the civil divorce for many reasons. You might ask why I have not yet just asked a judge to force the civil divorce. I can’t elaborate on this legality in this public forum). While my pain is not even a fraction of what Agunos go through who can’t get a Jewish Get (since technically I have the legal option to force a civil divorce without her cooperation, as contrasted with the absence of any legal options available to Agunos), I now have much more understanding and empathy for their immense suffering. Frankly, I can think of no lower form of human trash than a person who refuses to let his/her spouse have a divorce, other than for example, a child killer, of the kind we were cruelly introduced to last summer.

    Lastly, I read that HaGaon Reb Yaakov Kaminetzky, ZT”L told an Agunah that she is allowed to be Mispallel that her husband should die. It has been an incredible struggle for me not to Mispallel a similar request my ex-wife. I cannot be Mispallel for this, since one cannot compare my plight to the terrible Gehenom of an Agunah, and as such one cannot extrapolate the ruling of Reb Yaakov ZT”L to my situation. Yet often I wish that a great Gadol would be Matir me to say such a Tefillah since my life has also become too much to bear. Often on Friday nights when I walk back to my apartment alone, I tell myself that I will go the emergency room to save me from committing suicide over the course of the night. B”H it has not been necessary to go the hospital more than once, since my love for my children and my own mother, as well as the fear of the Mishpat of Hashem, has been a sufficient deterrent from harming myself. If I feel this desperate, then for sure the Agunos of this world must feel many times worse. We should all Daven to our All Merciful Father in Heaven for their plight and we should take any tactical steps to further their cause (e.g. attending rallies; anything other than violence).

    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. The Goq™
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    Silent one thank you for sharing your story, i pray that you will soon resolve this issue and get out of your gehennom that she is putting you through, I cannot tell you not to despair but know that i feel for you and see your great strength of spirit.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. cinderella
    If the shoe fits....

    SilentOne, I'm really sorry for what you are going through and I really hope and believe that Hashem will help you. May you be zoche to many happy, depression free years. And know that you are a strong, amazing person for being able to deal with this.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. MiddlePath
    Member

    SilentOne, wow. I am so sorry for the suffering you have been going through because of your ex-wife. I have tears in my eyes. You are an unbelievable person with superhuman strength to be able to keep living, and to be able to use your situation to better understand what agunos go through. You are such a special person.

    May G-d help you with everything you are going through, may He listen to your prayers, and may He give you the strength to move ahead in life with only happiness and success.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. oomis
    Member

    Silent One, this is a real tragedy. we often forget that men also suffer when a divorce becomes a reality, because we focus so much on the women. I am sorry for your pain and for the depression that played a role in causing it. I wish you happier times.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. SilentOne
    Member

    Wow - I am so gratified by the words of Chizzuk, empathy and Your Tefillos on my behalf. It means more to me that anyone can imagine to have such support in my corner and to read such words of validation. May Hashem bless you all with great happiness, spiritual and material prosperity and unlimited Nachas from your children.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  7. SilentOne
    Member

    It occurred to me that we shoudl say the Berocha of 'R'eh Vunyeinu" (7th Berocha in weekday Shemona Esrei) with much more fervor and have in mind the sufferinG Agunot, i.e that Hashem should redeem them quickly for teh sake of His name.

    I would like to write an English prayer for Agunot as some of you have read other prayers I wrote (such as for deperately ill children and childless couples). However, in order to write such an emotion-laden prayer, I must somehow be able to put myself in the Agunot's shoes and experience their painful emotions (to a 1/1,000,000 degree of the suffering) they and their children are going through. In order to put me into this state of mind, I need to hear stories about their horrific plight and anguish. Would someone please kindly share some stories of horror that the Agunot are going through? Don't spare me any agony - it is high time that a prayer was written for exclsuively for their suffering.

    Thank you very much.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  8. 147
    -105

    Please compose a Tefila for the real "chained", namely innocent children who are chained away from their fathers, and fathers who are not getting "parenting time" [a.k.a. visitation] which is their rightful lot.

    Unfortunately for most Agunot, most of them only have themselves to blame, for having withheld "parenting time" from we wonderful fathers, who have so much to offer to our children, using innocent children to fuel hatred.

    Every single case of an Agunah I ever came accross, the woman only had herself to blame for being an Agunah. HaShem in his infinite wisdom knew that some day in the future, there would be woman's lib, where the courts only care about the women, and not about the men & their children, so haShem in his infinite compassion & wisdom decreeed the requirement of a Get so the innocent man would have some control on the fate of his innocent chained children.

    The Torah calls a Get a "Sepher Keriesus" a cutting off book; Consequently it is a clear cut Halocho leMaaseh that there must be absolutely no left unfinished business to take care of, before dispensing a Sepher Keriessus, and whoever so tragically misguided you silentone just to give a Get and loose your place in the Driver's Seat, is hereby declared defrocked, and will face a frightening Din v'Cheshbon for what he did to you, when he gets to the next world.

    As for this world, get yourself a new lawyer who is competent, and meanwhile bombard this guy who screwed you up with this Get, until you get satisfaction; If need be, sue him as well.

    But remember Silentone:- Your kids will come of age, and shall never forgive their mother for screwing your relationship with them.

    Posted 1 year ago #

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