Are the nazis really descendants of Amalek

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    r c
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    Is it a real thing? is there any basis to say the nazis were amaleks descendants?

    #1475673

    Joseph
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    You don’t know that Hitler had chicken feet? That’s why he was never seen with his boots off.

    #1475682

    E-O-M
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    They are amalek
    Google “purimfest 1946”
    Like with any ancient nation, there probably isn’t currently a group that are all equally descended from the original, but the ideology of a Amalek is there

    #1475684

    ocho sinco
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    The Gemara in megila 6a that גרממיא של אדום will destroy or at least try to destroy the entire world. Sounds pretty convincing.

    #1475685

    unommin
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    Amalek? No, of course not. Thats a silly fifth grade level intellectual ‘argument’.

    #1475770

    Toi
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    Why is that a silly argument? I understand if you don’t believe it, but what’s silly about it?

    #1475776

    lesschumras
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    It should be easy to test. Does the genome of the Germanic people trace back to the middle east/Sinai?

    #1475783

    zahavasdad
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    If you are going to say the Germanic people are Amalek, then England is Amalek, (English are many times called WASP’s meaning Anglo SAXONS)

    And for that matter the US is Amalek too as the largest immigrant group to the US are people from Germany and the second largest is people from the UK meaning and there are plenty of others from other Northern European countires like The Netherlands (Dutch) New Amsterdam AKA New York City, Danish, Swedes and Norwegians

    #1475786

    Avi K
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    The Griz says that anyone who wants to wipe us out c”v is Amalek. However, Rav Nebenzahl disagrees. I heard that Rav (Joseoh) Soloveichik said that anyone who has no human feelings, such as Hitler and Stalin ym”s, are sheddim (see Rambam, Guide 1:7).

    #1476787

    HaLeiVi
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    Amaleq as a nation is gone since the days of Shaul Hamelech. Haman was an individual in Persia.

    #1476954

    Health
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    HaLeivi -“Amaleq as a nation is gone since the days of Shaul Hamelech. Haman was an individual in Persia”
    You’re sadly mistaken!
    Haman was called Haman HaHagogi.
    From JEWISH Encly…
    “Haman was a direct descendant of Agag in the sixteenth generation and consequently an Amalekite (Targ. Sheni;etc.”

    #1476975

    laskern
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    Health you are right. The reason we make noise by mentioning Haman’s name is because we want to erase his name yms”v to perform the mitzva of annihilation of Amalek.

    #1477067

    laskern
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    This hitting something or making noise by Haman is mentioned in the RMA SA O”CH 690:17 as discussed above. Minhogim are sacred and do not dismiss them. The Chasam Sofer said מנהג has the letters גהנם.

    #1477726

    Takes2-2tango
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    The nazi party was born/created in 1920. So how in gods name can the Nazis ym be from amalek?

    #1477743

    Health
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    Takes2-2tango -“name can the Nazis ym be from amalek?”

    This I don’t know, but the Megillah prophesized the outcome of the Nuremberg trial.
    J. Streicher knew this also when the second before hanging – he screamed “PurimFest 1946”!
    I googled that word and there is a book from France called “Code of Esther”.

    #1477836

    WolfishMusings
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    Why is that a silly argument?

    It wasn’t an argument at all. It was a question asking for evidence.

    The Wolf

    #1477851

    ☕️coffee addict
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    Wasn’t shwartzanagger in the kid Reich and wasn’t his father a nazi

    He has apologized for it and doesn’t seem to hate yidden

    #1477847

    laskern
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    I was told that this Julius Streicher is implied in the small letters of the children of Haman in the Megilla 1946. תשז

    #1477849

    laskern
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    I forget about the large vov indicating the 6th millennium.
    (not only small letters but out of the ordinary letters included, large or small found in the sons of Haman , vov and zayin in Vayzoso and tov and shiyen ותשז).

    #1477860

    laskern
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    When I googled Purimfest 1946, I found that at the Nurnberg trial ten were executed because Goering ym”s committed suicide. This happened on Yom Kippur which is like Purim.

    #1477871

    laskern
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    The article says that it actually happened on Hoshanah Rabba of 1946 when the judgements are finalized. Maybe it was called Purim festival because of the destruction of Amolek.

    #1477877

    laskern
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    A joke comes to my mind where the Jews said that Nasser will die on a Jewish holiday. How do you know that? Whatever day he will drop dead will be a Jewish holiday.

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    #1478984

    r c
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    Takes2tango The nazi party was born/created in 1920. So how in gods name can the Nazis ym be from amalek? Amalek was never totally killed out there are still poeple out there and by now so many generations later there are probably tons of people who are descended from amalek the question is who is it

    #1479774

    Bitul
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    Well, according to sender zeyv, author of aleph shin ten lost quotes a gemara that says thet the blood lines on the gid hanasheh of a chazir are the same lines as that of the lines of amalek. The author then goes on to fictionalize of the last of amaleks descendents who are nazis and decendants of bogdan chmelicki ym”h.

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