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Canadian group advocates banning burkas

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  • Started 4 years ago by Melech Unplugged
  • Latest reply from sammygol

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  1. A Canadian Muslim group is advocating banning burkas.

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    A Canadian Muslim group is calling on Ottawa to ban the wearing of the burka in public, saying the argument that the right to wear it is protected by the Charter's guarantee of freedom of religion is false.

    "The burka has absolutely no place in Canada," said Farzana Hassan, of the Muslim Canadian Congress. "In Canada we recognize the equality of men and women. We want to recognize gender equality as an absolute. The burka marginalizes women."
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    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/story.html?id=2079527

    How do you feel about this? Is this the Muslim equivalent of a self-hating group? Imagine if a Jewish group would advocate banning something not le-halachah that they feel is discriminatory to women. Or should this sort of move be supported? Or is it irrelevant and neither here nor there?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  2. NY Mom
    Member

    We must look at issues like this and apply it to our own community. This is an issue of freedom of religion. If allowed to go through, it can set legal precedent with unintended consequences for other groups such as our own. It should not be ignored! Once govt starts limiting the freedom of religion to certain groups or in some ways, that will open the door to limiting it in other ways! Scary.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  3. I can only try
    "We all try. You succeed." George HaChasid - Slayer of Trolls.

    This is an example of intolerance and small-mindedness at its worst.

    Why should anyone care about someone else’s tastes re: this issue?

    Although I’m not a fan of them personally, I have friends who consider them vital and wouldn’t do without them.

    Why, just as a practical matter they can warm you up on a chilly fall or cold winter day. What will these fanatics want to ban next? Down jackets? Hot chocolate?

    You can count on me as a vocal opponent to this egregious “ban” movement by our northern neighbors.

    Ban them? The nerve.

    Yours truly,
    icot

    P.S. – you misspelled “Bourekas”.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  4. tzippi
    Member

    Thanks, ICOT, I needed that.
    I'm ambivalent about banning burkas myself, leaning towards NOT banning.
    I've seen some women in "levush" a step or two down and it's actually quite attractive, and they show their full faces. Clearly seeing the face should be law, at least for licenses.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  5. haifagirl
    Chief of Grammar Enforcement Commandos

    Absolutely NOT ban them. If they ban burkas, they can ban tzitzis hanging out, or yarmulkes, or anything else they feel like banning. Not a good precedent to set.

    And ICOT, that really was great.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  6. mazca
    Member

    Well in Mexico it has been the law for a while that a nun cannot go into the street with a nun garment. You do not see too many nuns walking around their garment in the street, sometimes they do , but definitly is against the law. And this could work both ways in a way because Mexico is against religion in general that we have freedom to be jews. All public schools are not allow to teach any Sreligion. and well being a catholic country, who knows what is in their minds. So frum jews coming out on shabbos with their tallis over their heads is not a good idea.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  7. WolfishMusings
    The Wolf

    nun garment

    You might want to get into the habit of finding out the names of things. :)

    The Wolf

    Posted 4 years ago #
  8. Joseph
    the first

    If I recall, not too long ago in France they were considering banning yarmulka's along with burkas (in schools).

    Posted 4 years ago #
  9. WolfishMusings
    The Wolf

    Joseph,

    IIRC, it was all religious symbols.

    The Wolf

    Posted 4 years ago #
  10. mazca
    Member

    WolfishMusings, I will like you to post in Spanish and see how well you can manage a second languague.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  11. WolfishMusings
    The Wolf

    Mazca,

    It was a joke. A "nun garment" is called a habit -- hence my choice of words.

    My apologies.

    The Wolf

    Posted 4 years ago #
  12. SJSinNYC
    always pleasant

    Its terrible. If you can ban one religious symbol, you can ban them all.

    Why not ban streimels? Wigs? Chai necklaces?

    This is a VERY slippery slope.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  13. WolfishMusings
    The Wolf

    Wigs?

    I don't think anyone would say that a wig is a religious symbol. And even a streimel as a "religious symbol" is stretching the point a bit.

    The Wolf

    Posted 4 years ago #
  14. mybat
    Member

    In France you can´t wear any religious garment in public places, because there are so many muslims.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  15. I can only try
    "We all try. You succeed." George HaChasid - Slayer of Trolls.

    tzippi-
    haifagirl-
    YW Moderator-80-
    Thank you.

    Seriously, as long as it's not a security risk let 'em wear what they want.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  16. mazca
    Member

    I was so amazed by seeing a woman in a bourka in Canada I thought it was a good turist attraction and I wanted to take a picture.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  17. One of the problems is that when action is taken against one group, let's say because of a perceived issue with women's rights, other groups also get caught in the net. Something similar happened in Ontario when there was legislation to remove Sharia law from the Arbitration Act and Batei Din ended up caught as collateral damage.

    "Religious Muslims were predictably disappointed and vowed to fight on, while Jewish groups were angry over Premier Dalton McGuinty's additional comments that not only would Sharia go unrecognized, but Ontario would, as soon as possible, rescind the authority, of any faith-based tribunals in settling family disputes allowed under the 1991 Arbitration Act. They face the outlawing of their decades-old rabbinical courts (beit din)."

    http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Ontario+rejects+Sharia+law.-a0138657326

    Posted 4 years ago #
  18. sammygol
    Member

    Don't ban the garments, ban those who wear them :)

    Posted 4 years ago #

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