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Parshas HaMan - Tuesday of Parshas Beshalach

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  • Started 5 years ago by coke not pepsi
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  1. Im not really sure of all the details-but i know that the week of Parshas Beshalach there's a segula to say Parshas Haman for Parnasa--i dont really know why, but im sure there are plenty of people that can tell us why(and maybe ywn can post it on tuesday)

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/pdf/ParshasHamon.pdf

    Posted 5 years ago #
  2. amichai
    Member

    i'm sure ywn. will post the tefilla. you can also go into tefillos.com.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  3. teen
    Member

    how long is it?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  4. teen
    Member

    onlyemes: who are to say segulos dont work...are you god?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  5. JayMatt19
    Member

    Segulos don't work.
    Getting a paying job does.

    Ironic screenname for such a comment.

    Which parts of davening should we omit?

    בָּרֵךְ עָלֵינוּ ה' אֱלהֵ-ינוּ אֶת הַשָּׁנָה הַזּאת - Lets omit this, since G-d has no hand in our Parnassa R"L

    פּותֵחַ אֶת יָדֶךָ. וּמַשבִּיעַ לְכָל חַי רָצון: - I work, I earn, G-d can only get in the way R"L

    כִּי הוּא אֵ-ל זָן וּמְפַרְנֵס לַכּל וּמֵטִיב לַכּל וּמֵכִין מָזוֹן לְכָל בְּרִיּוֹתָיו אֲשֶׁר בָּרָא - Except for me! R"L

    אָבִינוּ מַלְכֵּנוּ. זָכְרֵנוּ לְפַרְנָסָה וְכַלְכָּלָה

    Any other parts of davening which are not in line with your religious beliefs?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  6. amichai
    Member

    you start from parshas shemos:chapter 16.posuk 4. vayomer hashem el moshe hinneni mamtir. and you say until shviyi.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  7. teen
    Member

    jaymatt19: thank you i like your argument better

    Posted 5 years ago #
  8. amichai
    Member

    onlyemes, look around you. how many people lost their jobs this year, how many people lost their SAVINGS this year?? nothing can be taken for granted. hashem runs the world ,and nebach it can be taken away in seconds. we aren't putting our trust in the segula, but it's a tefilla. wishing all of the klal that we should be able to provide for our families. this week is shabbos shira, we say oz yashir. what a beautiful parsha. i usually have tears in my eyes when we read it in shul.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  9. squeak
    Makes smalltalk with the two most sandy ectoplasmic beings on Earth (not to mention the Man on the Moon).

    Segulos do work. Getting a paying job is hishtadlus.

    P.S. Don't forget to stamp your feet while saying parshas haman (-:

    Posted 5 years ago #
  10. YW Moderator-72
    Retired Moderator

  11. JayMatt19
    Member

    MOD, that is the tfilas HaShlah, NOT PARSHAS HAMAN! PLEASE FIX!!


    thank you. Here it is.
    Although it can't hurt to say the Shlah's Tefillah either, I assume.

    YW Moderator-25

    Posted 5 years ago #
  12. d a
    The Original

    A Prayer for Parnassah recited by many especially on the Tuesday of Parshas Beshalach.
    FROM ARTSCROLL.COM

    When our ancestors were in the Wilderness, a month after the Exodus from Egypt, they faced a tomorrow with no food. Justifiably, they asked Moshe if he had taken them into the desert to starve to death. Hashem responded that in the morning they would see that He had not forsaken them.

    In the morning – and every morning for the next 40 years – there was manna waiting for them. By evening there was nothing left, and the next morning, it was there again. Can you imagine how we would feel if we went to sleep every night with empty refrigerators? There in the Wilderness, Hashem showed our ancestors that ultimately, parnassah is in His hands.

    We pray for it every day – to provide for our families, to assist worthy causes, to build sturdy foundations for the future.

    This year, more than any in living memory, we pray for parnassah. The recession has hit everywhere. Relatives and neighbors, institutions and hopes for the future have been battered. So we pray for parnassah perhaps more fervently than in the past – but some days are more propitious than others.

    The Torah reading of this coming Shabbos -- Parashas Beshalach -- includes the chapter telling how the Jewish People in the Wilderness received manna. Many people recite the chapter daily, as a special prayer for parnassah. There is also a widespread custom to recite this chapter on the Tuesday of the week of Beshalach, which this year is February 3rd.

    As a public service, we offer the text and interlinear translation of the chapter, from the Schottenstein Edition Interlinear Siddur. Please feel free to download it.

    Click on this link to download: The Chapter of Manna.pdf (PDF: 206K) (I hope it works! if not: http://www.artscroll.com/itehillim.html#parnassah HATZLACHA!)

    Posted 5 years ago #
  13. onlyemes
    Member

    To all my critics, who are well-intentioned but painfully ignorant:
    The tefilah for parnassah is found in almost every siddur. It is mentioned in the Yerushalmi Brachos, and is brought down by the Mishnah Brurah, OH 1, note 13. It is to be said EVERY DAY. This tefilah, as all others, has a dual intention. One, to ask for something from God, as we do in Shmoneh Esrai. Two is to acknowledge that all things come from God. He will decide whether to answer our prayers or not.
    A segulah is not a prayer. It is not a tefilah. To call the tefilah for parnassah a segulah is misleading. Saying it today is no different than saying it yesterday or tomorrow. It may be nice to say it today if you need it, but then say it every day.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  14. JayMatt19
    Member

    onlyemes: >>To all my critics, who are well-intentioned but painfully ignorant:...Segulos do not work. Try praying to G-d instead. <<

    Without discussing the merits of this statement (which would actually be a wonderful discussion, deserving of its own topic),

    Why didn't you say this in your original post??

    Originally you said >>Segulos don't work. Getting a paying job does. <<

    Posted 5 years ago #
  15. JayMatt19
    Member

    >> To call the tefilah for parnassah a segulah is misleading. Saying it today is no different than saying it yesterday or tomorrow. It may be nice to say it today if you need it, but then say it every day.<<

    There is such a thing as an Eis Ratzon. A time where certain types of tefillos are more powerful. There is a beautiful tfilla from the Shlah HaKaddosh about raising children. It can be said whenever you wish, but there is a speciall Inyan to say it Yom Kippur Katan for Sivan.

    >>Many "segulos" come from pagan and other non-Jewish sources, and they are worthless at best.<<
    No argument here, but why passul the real segulas because of this? We see in Parshas VaYetzei that the Dudaim had the power to assist in becoming pregnant, so much so that Leah and Rochel fought over them! (And have a look at the Rabeinu Bechaye who says that It is rubies, and it still works for someone who has fertility issues or trouble giving birth). Is it automatic? hardy. Can it work without tfillos? doubt it.
    But all sgulos are worthless? There are Mishnayos, Gmorros, Rishonim and others who humbly disagree with your opinion

    Posted 5 years ago #
  16. YW Moderator-72
    Retired Moderator

    whoops... sorry everyone. I wasn't feeling well yesterday. I saw parnasa in the link name and just added the link. thanks 25 for adding thr right link.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  17. Itzik_s
    Member

    BS"D

    And how may I ask could the Parshas HaMan, said on yom shlishi where it is twice ki tov, during the week in which Parshas Beshalach from whence it comes is recited, have any sort of origin that is remotely not Jewish????????????????????????

    Posted 5 years ago #
  18. qwertyuiop
    Member

    mod72: i hope you're feeling better today, if not refuah sheleimah.$

    Posted 5 years ago #
  19. kapusta
    CR Queen - “Best of luck. Avoid roasted cabbage, don’t eat earwax, and look on the bright side of life!”

    onlyemes dont be so quick to disprove segulos, I'm not giving a blanket statement that it will always work or always not work, but sometimes it may halp to question if you did anything to help you get the job

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  20. nossond
    Member

    If someone already made this joke forgive me. If not here goes.

    I thought parshas Haman is said on Purim!

    Posted 5 years ago #
  21. qwertyuiop
    Member

    nossond: squeak said:

    P.S. Don't forget to stamp your feet while saying parshas haman (-:

    Posted 5 years ago #
  22. Joseph
    the first

    Nosson: Very good :-)

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  23. Jothar
    F.M.C.R.S. and occasional creator of chaos.

    We have to differentiate between the segulos.

    There are the segulos based on real sources, and there are the modern segulos that look suspiciously like darchei emori.

    The Torah clearly says talmud Torah kenegged kulam.Any segula based on actual learning can't be bad. Torah is the biggest mitzvah. the biggest lesson of Parshas Haman is found in Rashi Ledoroseichem at the end- Hashem provides our needs. Working is hishtadlus. This is the lesson of Parshas HaMann. On Shabbos, we have lechem mishna to remind us of the Mann. On the day we don't work, we remind ourselves that we can take off on Shabbos because Hashem provides.

    The question is on the segulos that are of recent vintage and don't seem to be tied into Hashem.

    The best segula is always Davening and learning. I am dismayed at the glossy publications promising that if you give money to their organization then you are guaranteed yeshuos. there was an article about this in the yated of 2 weeks ago.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  24. Jothar
    F.M.C.R.S. and occasional creator of chaos.

    I saw this on another website:
    Reb Mendele M'Riminov said that saying Parshas HaMan (Shnayim Mikra V'Echod Targum) on Tuesday Parshas Bishalach, is a Segula for Parnassa. Emails are flying from concerned friend to friend reminding them not to miss the big opportunity with links to places where they can find all that they need online. In fact the Shulchan Aruch says in the first Siman of Orach Chaim that you should say it every day (along Parshas Akeida, Aseres HaDibros, Olah, Mincha, Chatos, Shlamim, Asham, Kiyor, Trumas HaDeshen, Tamid and of course Tikun Chatzos). The Mishna Brura quotes the Yerushalmi that guarantees to anyone who says it every day that he will never lack sustenance.

    A new Rav after attending the first board meeting of his less than fervently religious new Shul commented that he thinks they should add the Aseres HaDibros to the Shul's by-laws, this way everyone would strictly adhere to them. The same can probably be said about our keen interest and adherence to Segulos. Rav Shimshon Pincus among many others once said that the greatest segula for health is to say Asher Yatzar with kavana. Parnassa? Bareich Aleinu of course. You are standing before the Big Boss himself, when will you find a better time to ask for a raise to keep up with your growing families cost of living or a little bonus to cover the tuition or simcha expenses that you are being hounded for?

    Not to chas v'shalom belittle the segula of Parshas HaMan or Rav Mendele of Riminov, of course there is great power in saying Parshas HaMan if you read it carefully and don't just say it at top speed while dreaming about what you will do with the winnings of the upcoming lottery jackpot.

    Lesson # 1 No snacks or extras - Hashem sends us everything we need. "Bein HaArbayim Tochlu Basar U'Baboker Tisbi'u Lechem" Bishalach (16:12). Two solid meals a day, meat in the evening and bread in the morning. There was no tea room and small snacks were not provided to keep us going in between. Food and money in general are not given to us to satisfy our constant earthly cravings. They are tools we need for Avodas Hashem, to be used as needed only. Neither the Yerushalmi or Rav Mendele are going to promise you all the things we've come to enjoy that we don't need. As the end of the Pasuk says "ViDatem Ki Ani Hashem". The budget is given to help you stay in good physical condition to enable you to know that there is Hashem. Two many extras and the brain gets a little foggy, which would defeat the whole purpose.

    Lesson # 2 The 100/0 Rule - "VaYamodu BaOmer V'Lo Hedif HaMarbeh V'HaMamit Lo Hechsir" (12:18) How much money you get has absolutely nothing to do with your efforts or your intelligence. Not 50%, not 5%, and not even .01%. 100% Siyata Dishmaya.

    Lesson # 3 No savings plan - "Ish Al Yoser MiMenu Ad Boker" (12:19). In the 40 years in the midbar there was no bank collapse or stock market crash. No one had any money put away for a rainy day. By time everyone went to sleep in the midbar all the cupboards were empty and there wasn't a crumb to be had. I am sure they all slept better than we do with our "savings" protected in the bank, stock market, real estate, or pension fund. We worry what we will eat tomorrow even though we have plenty. They didn't although they had nothing. It would seem silly to say Parshas HaMan with the intention of adding to your coffers. Here again I am not sure the Yerushalmi or Rav Mendele can help you. Maybe a good solution for those of you who have too much cash floating around that you not ready to part with is to put it in a G'mach.

    If you go through the pasukim yourself with honest eyes and an open mind you will no doubt be inspired to discover countless other lessons regarding the proper attitude towards parnassa. It is important to also remember the first words of the parsha (16:4), "L'Ma'an Anasenu HaYeilech B'Soirasi Im Lo", the test of earning a living is all about proving that you are a loyal Yid going in the way of Hashem's Torah. Do you obtain it honestly. Do you earn money to keep the Torah, or is the art of earning money the torah you worship?

    Indeed these are lofty goals and far from where many of us are today. But surely, as the Yerushalmi or Rav Mendele say, it is worth saying Parshas HaMan, today on this revered day, and everyday. The repetition will certainly have an effect on us and it may start to seep in. The closer we get to this goal the richer we will indeed be. Your life will be enriched and it will be a life worth living. And as promised, Hashem will always give you all that you really need. You will feel great and look great, free of any worry. Remember Hashem calls us His "Am Segula" for a reason, and its not because we say Parshas HaMan on Super Tuesday with one eye on the chumash and the other eye on the stock market.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  25. YW Moderator-42
    Life, The Coffee Room, and Subtitles.

  26. JayMatt19
    Member

    BUMP!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  27. Yenta
    Member

    The new segula of blowing 1000 shofars at some kever (recent ad campaign), is way more exciting. http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/yated-insert-regarding-1000-shofar-ritual

    So many newer and exciting segulos around, and even newer ones still to be found.

    Sooooo un-Jewish.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  28. popa_bar_abba
    Incorrigible; eccentric; somewhere between mean and average; sometimes only a bit over the top; arbitrarily engaged in cynicism.

    I always wondered what Haman had to do with having a parnassah. And why it wouldn't make more sense to say it on purim.

    But hey, if it works...

    Posted 1 year ago #
  29. popa_bar_abba
    Incorrigible; eccentric; somewhere between mean and average; sometimes only a bit over the top; arbitrarily engaged in cynicism.

    I also want to mention that this is not a segulah like the witchcraft that people sometimes do.

    The purpose of this is quite clear: to remind you that Hashem provides for us, and that we need to turn to Him for our parnassah--the same way we turned to Him and He provided for us in the midbar.

    So I said it. And posted about it on here.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  30. WIY
    Managed to post for 3 years without getting a subtitle

    Is there a chiyuv of Hishtadlus to say it if you can?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  31. Dr Uri Bakay
    Member

    Parshas Haman only works till 9 am then you have to go to work, so said a great Rebbe

    Posted 1 year ago #
  32. YW Moderator-42
    Life, The Coffee Room, and Subtitles.

    Haman was extremely rich. Look where that got him...

    Posted 1 year ago #
  33. BaalHabooze
    On the rocks

    show of hands....how many of you bought lottery tickets yesterday after you recited parshas Hamon?
    ;)

    Posted 1 year ago #
  34. tzaddiq
    Member

    i bought a local raffle ticket from a student. i'll let u know if i win

    Posted 1 year ago #
  35. Ken Zayn
    born Kenneth Solomon Zaynestzky

    One guy says parshas haman without a siddur because he wants his income to be off the books...

    Posted 1 year ago #

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