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    John
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    Who is the real gog I’ve heard so many different people saying different things one said its Iran or Obama because gog comes from a different country to where he rules but then I saw on a website that Obama can’t be gog because gog comes from yefes could anyone clarify this

    #1042000

    Check out Bereishis 10:2 Magog is one of the children of Yefes.

    Yechezkel 38:2 ??? ???? ?? ??? ??? ?????

    #1042001

    Patur Aval Assur
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    Berachos 7b:

    ??? ????? ??? ???? ???? ?? ??? ???? ?????? ??? ?????

    #1042002

    Letakein Girl
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    Isn’t Iran a part of Yefes? I think I remember hearing that in a shiur once. Omg that’s really scary!

    #1042003

    John
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    R elchahan wasserman quoting the Chofetz chaim said that world 1 and 2 is the first two milchmes gog umagog where they didn’t enter yerushaliym and one is still to come. I remember hearing once in the name of the chassam sofer that all the tzaaros that people suffered throughout the generations make up for the war of gog and magog

    #1042004

    BarryLS1
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    John, I remember the same thing, except, that the Chofetz Chaim said that after part 2 (WWII), there would be a different type of war unlike anything we’ve ever seen. The war on terror seems to qualify.

    #1042005

    Patur Aval Assur
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    According to the Penei Yehoshua, they have to know the prophecies about Gog Umagog in order to be them.

    #1042006

    👑RebYidd23
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    Everyone does.

    #1042007

    Joseph
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    When we were kids the redd in yeshiva was that America and Russia were the gog and magog.

    #1042008

    Randomex
    Member

    Does anyone remember when a certain rabbi published an article about how George W. Bush was Gog?

    By the way, Gog will be the leader of Magog – the war is not “Gog vs. Magog.”

    #1042009

    YOSSI151
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    To defeat ??? you need ??????. Rav Tzadok points out that Gog is Gimel vov Gimel, and Dovid is Daled Vov Daled. Dovid will come after Gog and win the Milchama. B’mehara B’korov, Amen.

    #1042010

    HaLeiVi
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    According to the Maharal, and as it seems from Midrashim, the Milchemes Gog and Magogo is a war against Moshiach. Before Moshiach is Chevlei Moshiach. Once he comes it will arouse hate and jealousy and they will gang up against Moshiach. This might be against Moshiach Ben Yosef.

    If you go with Rav Kook’s view that the pre-Moshiach idea of Moshiach ben Yosef was actualized with the State of Israel, then perhaps 48, 57, 67, 78 are all part of Milchemes Gog and Magog.

    I hope we were Yotze Chevlei Moshiach already.

    #1042011

    lamud vov tzadik
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    There seems to be clear information pointing to the fact that Obama is Gog. Goodbye.

    #1042012

    Lamed Vov–What is this clear information?

    #1042013

    moi aussi
    Member

    At the end of days there will be a war between Edom and Yishmael, Western countries against Islam, could this be Gog & Magog?

    #1042014

    ☕️coffee addict
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    HaLeivi,

    someone showed me a sefer from the talmidei HaGra that Moshiach Ben Yosef is klal yisrael in eretz yisrael, and Moshiach Ben Yosef doesnt have to die, and 5751 (or 5750) is a pivotal time, taken from the first letters of amar oyeiv… in az yashir

    #1042015

    Matan1
    Participant

    How much bad as Obama done to label his as Gog?

    #1042016

    DikDukDuck
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    I heard that Bush was Gog.

    I hear that Obama is Gog.

    I will hear in 2016 that Hillary Clinton is Gog?

    #1042019

    ☕️coffee addict
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    matan,

    why does he have to do something bad, people said bush was Gog b/c they said Gog sounds like George

    #1042021

    lamud vov tzadik
    Participant

    Could there be more than one Gog, so Bush, Obama, Rouhani all could be Gog. I don’t have a mekoir for this, just a thought.

    #1042022

    DikDukDuck
    Participant

    @coffee addict:

    Lol.

    But George has a Jimmel in it.

    #1042023

    lamud vov tzadik
    Participant

    When a very special mekubal who’s not alive anymore was asked about who is gog he replied that the president of Iran (then) was gog. So says a gadol how can we argue?

    #1042025

    jewboy1
    Member

    As mentioned above about ??? and ??? it’s a spiritual war between tumuah and kedushah, ??? being engrossed in himself the whole time and ??? only thinking that he’s spreading Hashem’s light and as many have mentioned it may start off a physical battle it ends off as a spiritual one and that’s why you need ??? someone who is big spiritually.

    #1042026

    HaLeiVi
    Participant

    Oh, and Moshiach is someone’s Chiddush in Rochev Umanhig. Techiyas Hameisim is when I thought my Chiddush was Upgeshlagen when suddenly I find a remote Tosafos backing me up.

    #1042027

    jewboy1
    Member

    Sorry but I don’t understand that

    #1042028

    jewboy1
    Member

    Are you being serious, or just sarcastic?

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