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Who is the real gog I’ve heard so many different people saying different things one said its Iran or Obama because gog comes from a different country to where he rules but then I saw on a website that Obama can’t be gog because gog comes from yefes could anyone clarify this
Check out Bereishis 10:2 Magog is one of the children of Yefes.
Yechezkel 38:2 ??? ???? ?? ??? ??? ?????
Berachos 7b:
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Isn’t Iran a part of Yefes? I think I remember hearing that in a shiur once. Omg that’s really scary!
John, I remember the same thing, except, that the Chofetz Chaim said that after part 2 (WWII), there would be a different type of war unlike anything we’ve ever seen. The war on terror seems to qualify.
According to the Penei Yehoshua, they have to know the prophecies about Gog Umagog in order to be them.
Everyone does.
When we were kids the redd in yeshiva was that America and Russia were the gog and magog.
Does anyone remember when a certain rabbi published an article about how George W. Bush was Gog?
By the way, Gog will be the leader of Magog – the war is not “Gog vs. Magog.”
To defeat ??? you need ??????. Rav Tzadok points out that Gog is Gimel vov Gimel, and Dovid is Daled Vov Daled. Dovid will come after Gog and win the Milchama. B’mehara B’korov, Amen.
According to the Maharal, and as it seems from Midrashim, the Milchemes Gog and Magogo is a war against Moshiach. Before Moshiach is Chevlei Moshiach. Once he comes it will arouse hate and jealousy and they will gang up against Moshiach. This might be against Moshiach Ben Yosef.
If you go with Rav Kook’s view that the pre-Moshiach idea of Moshiach ben Yosef was actualized with the State of Israel, then perhaps 48, 57, 67, 78 are all part of Milchemes Gog and Magog.
I hope we were Yotze Chevlei Moshiach already.
There seems to be clear information pointing to the fact that Obama is Gog. Goodbye.
Lamed Vov–What is this clear information?
At the end of days there will be a war between Edom and Yishmael, Western countries against Islam, could this be Gog & Magog?
HaLeivi,
someone showed me a sefer from the talmidei HaGra that Moshiach Ben Yosef is klal yisrael in eretz yisrael, and Moshiach Ben Yosef doesnt have to die, and 5751 (or 5750) is a pivotal time, taken from the first letters of amar oyeiv… in az yashir
How much bad as Obama done to label his as Gog?
I heard that Bush was Gog.
I hear that Obama is Gog.
I will hear in 2016 that Hillary Clinton is Gog?
matan,
why does he have to do something bad, people said bush was Gog b/c they said Gog sounds like George
Could there be more than one Gog, so Bush, Obama, Rouhani all could be Gog. I don’t have a mekoir for this, just a thought.
When a very special mekubal who’s not alive anymore was asked about who is gog he replied that the president of Iran (then) was gog. So says a gadol how can we argue?
As mentioned above about ??? and ??? it’s a spiritual war between tumuah and kedushah, ??? being engrossed in himself the whole time and ??? only thinking that he’s spreading Hashem’s light and as many have mentioned it may start off a physical battle it ends off as a spiritual one and that’s why you need ??? someone who is big spiritually.
Oh, and Moshiach is someone’s Chiddush in Rochev Umanhig. Techiyas Hameisim is when I thought my Chiddush was Upgeshlagen when suddenly I find a remote Tosafos backing me up.
Sorry but I don’t understand that
Are you being serious, or just sarcastic?
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