Halachic guidelines for the YWN coffee room

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    Haimy
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    There is a lack of halachic knowledge regarding what may or what may not be posted on a public forum.
    If you post a derogatory message about a fellow yid you can easily transgress multiple issurei loshon ho’rah or rechilus over & over again with every person that reads it. If it’s about a talmid chacham then it’s a much more severe issur. Even if you don’t mention someone by name but we all know who you’re referring to it is assur.
    I would recommend the moderators at YWN get clear halachic guidance about what may be posted & to share this information with readers who surely don’t want to be nichshol.

    #1439315

    iacisrmma
    Participant

    What if they are quoting from sources like……the Yated, Hamodia, Mishpacha, Binah?

    #1439319

    Joseph
    Participant

    Yated, Hamodia, Mishpacha, Binah and their likes studiously avoid posting l”h, rechilus, ms”r and other halachicly unacceptable material.

    #1439410

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
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    “What if they are quoting from sources like……the Yated, Hamodia, Mishpacha, Binah?”

    That doesn’t make it okay. I don’t want to get into specifics (for obvious reasons), but it would be very hard to find any news publication that is not at times oiver on issurei Loshon hora. I’m sure that they have the best intentions and are trying hard to avoid it, but it is a difficult task.

    I have asked sheilas about this more than once, and anyone who reads any Frum publication whether online or in print has a chiyuv to point out to the editors when they notice that Loshon Hora accidentally got in. If you don’t do so, you are probably oiver on hilchos loshon hora by reading the paper and not saying anything, thus implying that it’s not a problem and encouraging the spread of loshon hora.

    #1439585

    Uber_Chacham
    Participant

    Just pointing out that even if a post in the coffe room counts as befnei shalahshtam (It might not, as there isn’t as much embarrassment because none knows who you are), that only means that when the poster said something that is not necessarily bad it means the less bad statement.

    #1440260

    Redleg
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    Repeating common knowledge is not lashon hara. Saying something uncomplimentary about a particular Jew which may not be generally known is clearly assur, saying that one Ploni was caught selling treif chickens as kosher is common knowledge and permitted. (i guess y’all know who I’m talking about)

    #1446766

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    re Redleg’s post: I was at someone’s house once when they started to discuss the incident referred to. I asked them them to stop as it’s L”H. They used the old “common knowledge excuse”.

    I pointed out that even if it’s true that “common knowledge” is permitted in terms of hilchos L”H (which I’m not sure about), what about “V’ahavta l’raecha kamocha” to the person’s family? If you were his son, would you like it that others are talking about your father?

    They conceded that I had a good point, and changed the topic.

    #1446768

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    Also, when it comes to the CR, my issue is usually not the facts that are being given over, but the way in which they are given over. The problem is when a person or group is described with derogatory adjectives, in a way that can cause hatred (towards the person. group, or Am Yisrael as a whole) and/or a chilul Hashem.

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