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Lipa's new Chanuka video...So, so sad...

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  • Started 2 years ago by Shraga18
  • Latest reply from chalilavchas

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  1. iced
    Joseph

    Ananas: So that others are aware of this bum's public aveiros and aren't c'v nichshol by listening or watching him.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  2. miritchka
    probationary member

    I've never been into Lipa's music to start with cuz i dont speak yiddish nor do i understand it when its spoken/sung so quickly.

    Seeing his music videos were entertaining at first. Clean, with meaning, and was done because (per the rumors i've heard) he wouldnt perform in front of mixed crowds. This made me recognize him as a wonderful singer who could have a major impact on his listeners.

    However, as the style of his music changed and his appearance at live concerts/performances/circus' went from none to seperate crowds to family seating, I saw how wrong i was.

    Like i mentioned before, I'm not a fan of his in general, but i was dissappointed as there are many, many teens who admire him and they are the most impressionable of all.

    His attire in his music videos too went from clean to questionable. I did see his most recent music video - miracles - and was appaled at how he changed his mode of dress and how his Jewish (i sincerely hope they are) backup singers were dressed. I mean there were some scenes where it looked like he was placed in a non-Jewish music video!

    Hopefully this whole ban issue will speak to Lipa and bring back the real Lipa that we can look up to once again.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  3. cherrybim
    Member

    Can anyone imagine a sincere ehrlich person publishing a Pesach Hagadah which includes their photo on every page! And to make matters worse, Judaica bookstores carry these "Hagadahs"; and even worse, people buy it.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  4. Toi
    beware the cleats

    "bring back the real Lipa that we can look up to once again."

    Never was, never will be. His recent antics have been michazek my emunas chachomim greatlt. From when he put out 'gelt' my rabbeim said they saw this coming and we smirked. and now he films himself in a music video that couldve come from any pop star. maybe we should leanr to trust our rabbeim and rabbonim, and not wait for theyre chashashos to come true.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  5. RedNails19
    Member

    Pleeeeeeez- u ppple needs calm down; if u don't find lipa appropriate for your kids, no-problem, they don't have to see a grown man making a fool of himself and making pple laugh!
    But no one here is one to talk, I'm sorry!!! Start focusing on the pple in our community even trying to make entertainment in the Jewish community a little more hip than all the garbage tv and the Internet has to offer, excuse me, but I don't see u using ur talents to benefit our kids education in entertainment form; like uncle Moshe and Shmuel kunda zt"l.
    U wanna see inappropriate go on to utube and check out the viral video already at eighty thousand of a concert at a wedding all the guys high and drunk off their faces singing gangnam style.
    Lets stop making fusses- just make changes in ur own life!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  6. WIY
    Managed to post for 3 years without getting a subtitle

    Rednails
    Guys like Lipa empower them and make them think its ok to be "goyish."

    Posted 2 years ago #
  7. zahavasdad
    zahavasoneluckygirl

    Banning Lipa will not make people listen to Dvekas style music. People who listen to Lipa , Matisyahu etc are not listen to say Reb Sholmo Brazil, they would listen to even more pop style instead

    Posted 2 years ago #
  8. WIY
    Managed to post for 3 years without getting a subtitle

    Zdad
    The problem is that Lipas cd's are listened to in most chassidish homes. Homes that would never listen to non Jewish music and kids whos parents would never let the kids listen to non Jewish music and they themselves would never do so.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  9. zahavasdad
    zahavasoneluckygirl

    WIY

    I am fairly knowledgeable about pop culture

    I was a for Shabbos at my neighbors house who are very Charedi and are very careful what they allow in the house.

    Right in front of the parents the teenage daughters started talking about how they had gone to concerts of certain pop stars and the parents seemed oblivious to what they were saying. They really didnt have a clue what was going on. The parents are very old world and dont speak english that well (Which the children do) and the kids were really getting over on them. And Ive seen it many times with the same family. The parents are totally clueless. Ive heard my kids listen to songs I do not approve of and I asked them who told them about it and they said their friends. I met their friends parents, they were totally Charedi and obviously were clueless about what these songs were about.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  10. jewish source
    Member

    RED NAILS its time for green ones
    We let our guard down long enough we as the jewish nation have to put our foot down when the feeling is so mutual.
    We are loosing connection with Hashem everyday further away and we are becoming accustom to SHMUTZ rchl we need a big yeshua but we could be the yeshua we all have say with a strong voice that this is wrong. Don't we all want aidele children with chein with a yidishe temimisdike look on them. Does everyone need to look like they are stoned. chapplap in shul with no feelings . This is a direct result of the sheim hashem nikra alecha slowly leaving us because we are filling up that ruchniosdike yurning with shmuts not eidele songs videos gathering WE WANT TO BE AIDEL TEMIMISDIK simple love for Hashem , that cannot be done with garbage in our homes minds.
    Kol hayochol limchos vaino moiche . nitfas al anshei beiso iro vkol haolam . rabosai we must voice our opinion strong
    go the the video and vote it down request from Lipa to TAKE IT DOWN
    WE DONT WANT SHMUTZ ANYMORE

    Posted 2 years ago #
  11. ZeesKite
    Member

    Thank you Jewish Source.

    Well put!!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  12. chalilavchas
    Member

    Perhaps a friend of Lipa's can clue us in on why Lipa seems to be leaning towards more secular type videos, from what I saw in the clip.

    Could be that they made a business decision to increase the fan base, and thought that they would be attracting more listeners and customers, so losing the old ones who were saddened by the loss of the heimish flavor, etc would not affect them badly, financially.

    They had to have realized that this Chanukah video is very different in flavor than his others. Its not the same Lipa.

    Sad that the frumme oilem made Lipa the success that he became.

    I cant see more secular type people becoming fans of Lipa. Who knows though.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  13. 2scents
    Mint and Raspberry

    I think that it's not that bad that he is officially disassociating himself from the frum oilem.

    At lease he is showing his true colors.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  14. YITZCHOK2
    Member

    with the chillul hashem we just witnessed from "UNZERER" would you wnat people to think you were one of them?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  15. Hocker101
    Member

    Shraga18:

    If a Fiat is a Ferrari to you then please give me the money for a Ferrari and I will buy you one (aka: fiat).

    Posted 2 years ago #
  16. kkls45
    Member

    my friend attended a Chanukah party in which lipa was the entertainment, and she said that he not sing his new Chanukah song at all.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  17. chalilavchas
    Member

    my friend attended a Chanukah party in which lipa was the entertainment, and she said that he not sing his new Chanukah song at all.

    Yeah, but it seems to me that hes changing direction in the move away from Heimish flavor towards a more Goyish-feeling flavor. He had to have realized that before the video became public and was ok with it. I cant see any other Heimish singers coming out with a video like that (a woman putting on make-up, and not such Tzniusdik clothing).

    Posted 2 years ago #
  18. RedNails19
    Member

    WIY and Jewish Source
    I really do agree with you, but maybe you're living in a little shteltle somewhere in yehupitville, i dont know. but i know where I live, in New York- EVERYTHING is OPEN, and all our kids see and hear all the psychotic stuff that goes on and all the garbage. Do i think Lipa poses as a controversial issue- yes. but thats my own opinion. Is he doing something wrong, i don't know; im no posek. Do i think he looks dumb and want my kids to watch him, not necc. but i would MUCH rather them enjoy his shtuss than to go and sit and let their minds gets absorbed with such stupidity and immorality the TV and Internet has to show!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  19. chalilavchas
    Member

    Red,

    but i would MUCH rather them enjoy his shtuss than to go and sit and let their minds gets absorbed with such stupidity and immorality the TV and Internet has to show!

    True!

    But much of the Oilem liked him just the way he was, so why did he have to move to the left? Id love to know. Do he and his advisors think he'll attract more customers this way? I think not, so why did he need this change?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  20. brisket
    Member

    I find it interesting that throughout the discussion everyone has criticized his antics, yet no one has mentioned any problems with the song itself except for the Ferrari issue.
    I find this interesting because music has a much greater effect on a person than anything else and after listening to the song I couldn't make heads or tales as to the purpose of the song and was forced to google the lyrics.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  21. Mammele
    Member

    If you'd listen to him on the Zev Brenner show before chanukah you'd be more clued in. He's apparently taking college courses to improve his English as well as studying performing arts. Although most of us were happy with the "old Lipa" he's traveling all over the world for really big bucks, not all these guys are so frum and he's trying to both impress and "blend in". At least that's my take on it. I really liked his "temimos" if that's the right word, and will miss his old style if he continues on this path. B"H I've never had this nisoyon.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  22. Ðash®
    Member

    But much of the Oilem liked him just the way he was, so why did he have to move to the left? Id love to know. Do he and his advisors think he'll attract more customers this way? I think not, so why did he need this change?

    But a good portion of his original fan base are following Rabbis who are boycotting him so he needs to find new fans. I usually don't follow him simply because I don't like his music but other than replacing Yiddish with English, I don't see much of a differance between this video and his earlier releases.

    Was there something objectional with my previous post on this thread or did I just forget to press "Send"?

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    Posted 2 years ago #
  23. Syag Lchochma
    working on shesika

    My son who likes Lipa thought this was somewhat typical and not so different. If you pay attention you will notice lubavitch 'stuff' throughout. We just assumed he made this with/for them to use in their outreach. If that IS the case (my son mentioned it, not me) than some of us here may owe him a bit of an apology.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  24. miritchka
    probationary member

    Red Nails: "maybe you're living in a little shteltle somewhere in yehupitville, i dont know. but i know where I live, in New York- EVERYTHING is OPEN, and all our kids see and hear all the psychotic stuff that goes on and all the garbage. "
    Mammele: "Although most of us were happy with the "old Lipa" he's traveling all over the world for really big bucks, not all these guys are so frum and he's trying to both impress and "blend in"."

    This is a problem not only here but all over the Jewish world where we are trying to 'blend in'. We are different, we are special, we shouldnt try to blend in! Isnt this the reason we were taken out of mitzrayim - the fact that we remained pure and lived solely for Hashem? That we didnt change our clothing and language?
    If we know our children are exposed to all the garbage, we should be doing other things to distract them from outside influences. I'm not experienced, but just letting children listen to things we know they shouldnt listen to, or wearing things we know they shouldnt wear, or doing things we know they shouldnt be doing, etc.. because we live in a society where everything is open so 'lets pick and choose the best option of things they shouldnt be doing to prevent them from doing worse', is twisted thinking.
    We are an am kadosh and we are different...

    Posted 2 years ago #
  25. chalilavchas
    Member

    Syag,

    If you pay attention you will notice lubavitch 'stuff' throughout. We just assumed he made this with/for them to use in their outreach. If that IS the case (my son mentioned it, not me) than some of us here may owe him a bit of an apology.

    Ive seen Outreach films and I dont think showing a woman with sleeves above the elbow and putting on make-up are prerequisites and will neccessarily make them any more of a success.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  26. TheBearIsBack
    (Otis)zviller Rebbe

    The producer happens to be affiliated with Chabad, so he filmed it in Crown Heights.

    It is a commercial video, not an outreach film.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  27. MorahRach
    Member

    Can someone explain to me what all this fuss is about? My husband and I had to watch the video after reading this thread. I can understand people saying its a dumb video, the lyrics make zero sense, he is acting like a fool, but what is so BAD. I had to try 3 times to actually freeze frame so I could see " elbows" that's how quick it was. I am honestlyore disturbed that so many men here noticed. That really dampens my spirits. I only hope that in the real world my husband is not trying so hard to see a woman look untsnius.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  28. chalilavchas
    Member

    Morah,

    I am honestlyore disturbed that so many men here noticed.

    To what do you credit your knowledge of which posters are male and which are female?

    Anyhow, never mind the details, its not at all Heimish feeling, to the slightest degree, except for Lipa's look and accent. His other projects were Heimish feeling.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  29. TheBearIsBack
    (Otis)zviller Rebbe

    Years ago, people said the same thing about MBD and Yidden, Yidden. This, too, shall pass.

    Lipa never claimed to be anything but a commercial singer who is in it for GELT. This video wasn't great, but he's not going oisvorf and he's not the next Matisyahu.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  30. uneeq
    Ironically, redundant subtitles can be redundantly ironic.

    TheBear: If Lipa had any talent, Matisyahu would've been the next Lipa.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  31. MorahRach
    Member

    Correct, I do not know that the people who said they froze the frame were men. I apologize I should not jump to conclusions. However, don't you think it's worse to point out where to freeze frame to see a speck of a woman's elbow, on this site. Oy to me that is worse.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  32. a mamin
    Tomid Besimcha!!

    The feeling I got from watching this clip is, it was totally rap music. NOT AT ALL FOR OUR NATION! I feel sorry for him, with all his talents that he decided to go this way! My husband said it would happen years ago..... I guess he was right again!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  33. chalilavchas
    Member

    Does he really think secular Jews and non-Jews will buy his stuff? I cant see it.

    What is he thinking?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  34. WIY
    Managed to post for 3 years without getting a subtitle

    chalilavachas
    He's delusional. He doesn't have the talent to compete in that arena. He is no Mattisyahu. I don't see his endgame. He is like all those tuna beigel kids who "think" they convincingly look and sound not chassidish but don't realize how pathetic they come across. This is another example of what happens to a person when he isn't connected to Torah and has no guidance. He needs an intervention and quickly before he goes too far and ruins his own career.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  35. chalilavchas
    Member

    Lets all Heib of Inzere Hentelech Tzu Tatte in Himmel asap, for Lipa's sake.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  36. just me
    Member

    Therapist, I agree with you but this lashon hara is SO much fun to write and read. And since we are all anonymous, it is even more fun to say...er...write. But we are all tzadikim speaking about a rasha so we all know that is correct, good and praise worthy. I'm sure there will be a special place in Olam Haba waiting for all of us lashon hara l'shaim Shamayim speakers...writers.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  37. just me
    Member

    BTW, Lipa dropped everything and ran to entertain a child he didn't even know because the mother (my friend) saw him and told him about her son who was in the hospital and was a fan.

    This is for sure the midah of a rasha.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  38. shmoel
    Joseph

    just me: If you do a good deed then you are absolved from all your bad deeds. Gotcha.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  39. chalilavchas
    Member

    just me, youre 100% right, its Lashon Hara. I have heard as well that he's very into Chesed.

    Unfortunately, its painful to be losing performers, one by one, who we previously felt comfortable with, hashkafa-wise, who entertained our children and granchildren together with adults.

    Lipa is silly/funny and amusing, not just a dry performer, and yet not totally for children like Uncle Moishi.

    He was in that middle range that adults and children both enjoyed. Who else is there who fills that need?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  40. shmoel
    Joseph

    That isn't a "need".

    Posted 1 year ago #
  41. TheBearIsBack
    (Otis)zviller Rebbe

    "think" they convincingly look and sound not chassidish

    LOL. He is showing that Chassidim are human and fun and friendly by exaggerating his levush, singing in Yiddish, and stressing his tzebrochin Aynglish no matter where he performs. (If he is taking college courses in English it is so he can sing or even write lyrics in English and know what rhymes and what doesn't - for instance, he could sing my "Food Shtemps far Alle Yidden" knowing he has to pronounce Tzu Drayt like a Litvak to get it to rhyme with Section 8 :)).

    Posted 1 year ago #
  42. chalilavchas
    Member

    shmoel

    That isn't a "need".

    You are right! Its not a need for those who live a life of 100% Ruchnius. But not everyone can.

    Everything beyond very basic and humble types of food, clothing and shelter is Gashmius. Not too many in our Dor live Gashmius-free lives.

    Some need fancy this and fancy that, some need entertainment... We all have different weaknesses.

    Posted 1 year ago #

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