May 16, 2017 6:40 pm at 6:40 pm #1277367
Is Trump in Israel right now?
What do you think he’s eating?
How does Trump pronounce falafel? Shawarma? Hummus? Tachina? –> Maybe like, “Give me one of those” ?
I think that he would be very pleased with himself if he heard someone say telefone in Hebrew, knowing that he just understood a word.
Do you think he’s eating Bamba too?May 16, 2017 9:33 pm at 9:33 pm #1277479
He arrives on Monday.
But it’s been reported that approximately 30 Boeing C-17 transport aircraft are arriving before then with supplies for his trip. Each C-17 can carry 170,900 pounds, so maybe he’s bringing his own food.May 16, 2017 9:43 pm at 9:43 pm #1277481
Wow that’s a lot!!! Would they do that? By supplies, maybe they mean Secret Service and technology defense stuff?
I guess he could bring his own food. Interesting. I didn’t even think of that.
Aren’t they preparing a billion IDF now for his visit?
Thanks 🙂May 16, 2017 11:38 pm at 11:38 pm #1277511
LB: Personally, I don’t care what Trump eats or how he pronounces certain the names of various food items. Maybe it’s time to focus on the serious questions about his presidency and handling his presidential responsibilities.May 16, 2017 11:55 pm at 11:55 pm #1277534
Yes that gets heavy lowerourtuition11210.
I prefer to abstain from that here.
If you came to the CR looking to discuss the serious questions about the presidency, you are welcome to start your own thread. Why come here and rebuke the post?
The intention here was to make a light post about the visit and how that will play out practically. Food is powerful in itself. Maybe by connecting with Israeli culture Trump will warm up B”H.
Those little details can influence his overall experience. Or maybe I am just being hopeful and unrealistic. Anything is possible.
Thank youMay 17, 2017 12:35 am at 12:35 am #1277587
To Lowertuition: Its way too soon to focus on either impeachment or invocation of the 25th Amendment…..In the interim, the President should be allowed to enjoy his first (and perhaps only) visit to EY. His first meal should be the official residence of the U.S. Ambassador whose kitchen has just been koshered by a Rav from 5T who flew over to EY with a team of the finest Chassidish mashgichim since there were apparently no competent mashgichim available in EY who could guarantee that the mehadrim standards of our Ambassador Reb Friedman would be met. Since the WH announced today that they’ve cancelled the campaign rally reportedly to be held at Massadah, the President will have sufficient time to dine in style at one of the 40+ McDonalds in EY, many of which also have chassideshe hashgacha, albeit not with McNuggets from chickens with a 5T vaad plumba.May 17, 2017 1:43 am at 1:43 am #1277593
Who is the Ambassador a Chosid of?May 17, 2017 11:21 am at 11:21 am #1277704
To Yosef: He is NOT a chossid of any particular rebbe but has historically been a good friend and supporter of the Chabad shaliach in 5T who, in turn, recruited the mashgichim to fly over with him to EY to kasher the ambassador’s residence. In fairness, Ambassador Friedman has been a great supporter of many worthy mosdos as well as some settlement groups in Yehuda and Shomron, which were noted at his confirmation hearings.May 17, 2017 1:19 pm at 1:19 pm #1277811
Thanks for pointing it out. Must have slipped by somehowMay 17, 2017 1:20 pm at 1:20 pm #1277812
Godolhadorah: You wrote: ” Its way too soon to focus on either impeachment or invocation of the 25th Amendment”
I never said anything about impeachment or presidential succession. There are serious questions since the President himself sends mixed messages as to his actions which makes he and his staff appear to be in crisis mode at all times. What do I (or other readers) care how he pronounces the names of food?
I stated my personal opinion…….which is what I thought the CR was for.May 17, 2017 2:35 pm at 2:35 pm #1277862
Personal opinions with a bit of humor/sarcasm/parody/satire….plenty of opportunity for “serious” news on the regular news threads.
P.S. I’m not a big Tumpkopf cheerleader but always willing to share some thoughts on POTUS’ responsibilities with respect to fine dining and healthy eating.May 18, 2017 6:45 am at 6:45 am #1280279
I just remembered that he recently downgraded the health of public school cafeteria foods.
When he’s not in Israel, maybe he can just the public school foods that he cleared for our children. Of course his son isn’t getting the luxury of the new public school menu.May 18, 2017 11:03 am at 11:03 am #1280460
It would be tragic if parents or local communities were able to decide what food their children should eat. That’s a decision that only the federal government should make.May 18, 2017 12:10 pm at 12:10 pm #1280508
DovidBT- your comment may sound good but if you have ever sat in a lunchroom and watched children eat chips and soda for lunch you might think differently.
Also, I get the left overs from hot lunch and redistribute (that which is still edible) to others. What Michelee Obama did was make the food everything that nobody wanted to eat. The amounts of food left over from kids not interested in whole wheat pasta, fatfree white milk, squash soup and whole wheat bread was stunning. And you would be shocked at how hard it was for me to find families who had children who would eat it!
I will be beyond grateful when lunches can go back to being edible. It is without doubt more healthy than having nothing at all.May 18, 2017 4:38 pm at 4:38 pm #1280656
Schools also managed to make unhealthy food disgusting.May 18, 2017 8:02 pm at 8:02 pm #1280773
YW Moderator-29 👨💻Moderator
That problem is easily solved. Either bring your own, or quit school.May 18, 2017 9:20 pm at 9:20 pm #1280785
Under the pre-trump federal school lunch guidelines the white milk is NOT fat free, it is Low Fat (1%). The flavored milk (Chocolate and Strawberry) are fat free. The Trump administration will allow the flavored milks to also be Low Fat.
However, this won’t be changed in school districts until they bid new milk contracts for future school years. Our local public school system is only in year one of a three year contract, so no change until September 2019.
It’s interesting that you can take and redistribute food from a school lunch program. This is illegal in many localities. The full lunch MUST be served to every student and once served, even if the container is not open it can not be recycled. I have watched the cafeteria ladies take as many as 100 milk cartons at a time from the tables they clear and open them and pour the milk down the drain.
The workers are told that if they are caught removing any leftover items from the premises they are subject to immediate dismissal.
One of the requirements for non-profits to receive free USDA surplus food is that the food may only be used for the specific program. Our local health codes don’t allow the food to go elsewhere for later feedings because there is no way to certify handling (temperature, etc.) and the school that prepared it would have a liability if someone got ill.
I could go on and on, because I just chaired a committee of our Town Council dealing with food costs and handling in the public schools.May 18, 2017 9:31 pm at 9:31 pm #1280789
CTLawyer – yes, you are correct. it is the chocolate that is fat free. But nobody wanted it. Instead of having three to five cases left over there would be 10-20 cases left over.
And yes, you are also correct about all the other regulations you listed. The lunches are measured out to each child regardless of how much they want. But they are not obligated to take all the options, they may chose 3 of 5, or 4 of 6 (I don’t remember). That is how the left overs ‘come to be’.
For the first year of our lunches (we have only had the lunch program in our schools for about 2 years) we threw tons of food away as staff members who had little to eat watched on. It was awful. It took a while to come up with a way to get access to the food that was perfectly legal, no loopholes or kulas but with Hashem in our corner, so to speak, we found the way.
There is also the issue of food from the kitchen that cannot be used again for lunches (menus cannot be repeated within a certain time frame) but is perfectly fine for eating.
B”HMay 18, 2017 10:02 pm at 10:02 pm #1280799
In our public school district they use 90% chocolate 10% White milk.
Our biggest problem is that food is packaged at the central commissary, sent to the schools in individual serving plastic trays with polyfilm and heated at the schools. Thus a 3 year old in Pre-K and a high school senior all get the same size lunch portion. The little kids can’t finish and the teens are hungry.
Back when food was actually cooked in each school and ladeled out as the kids went through the line, the cafeteria ladies could adjust the size of the portion by age and appetite. A first grader might get 2 fishsticks and a 8th grader 5. No more.May 18, 2017 10:15 pm at 10:15 pm #1280806
In my kid’s school the kids made a “hefker” table where they themselves will place things they don’t want that other kids will take. The staff are not allowed to “lay hands” on the food and leftovers go in the garbage but the kids themselves trade and ‘regift’ their food before it’s eaten. And technically the hefker food is “in the garbage” so if someone wants to take it I don’t know what they law would say. Anything left over in the serving trays has to be thrown out or used before a certain amount of time passes (4 hours?) when the food is considered expired and it no longer exists in the eyes of the state.
ridiculous story- sad but true – the staff is forbidden from touching or handling the children’s food for fear of them “pilfering” it. When the inspectors came to a school for the severely and profoundly disabled, we were not allowed to handle the food so the cartons sat closed before them, the containers sat unopened, the fruit sat unpeeled and the packages remained sealed. The students were only able to eat that which they could spoon or handfeed themselves from that which was unwrapped. It was heartbreaking.May 18, 2017 11:32 pm at 11:32 pm #1280835
CTLAWYER: there is a known story of R’ M. M. Mandel tzatzal the Menahel of Yeshiva of Brooklyn that someone (either the janitor or the mailman) saw him pouring milk for his coffee from a small bottle he had in his pocket. When asked why he did that he replied that he couldn’t use the yeshivas milk as it was paid for by government grants meant to feed the students, not the staff.May 19, 2017 10:16 am at 10:16 am #1280960
Trump seems to be a big fan of KFC. Are there any KFC franchises in Israel?May 19, 2017 10:59 am at 10:59 am #1280976
“Back when food was actually cooked in each school and ladeled out as the kids went through the line, the cafeteria ladies could adjust the size of the portion by age and appetite.”
Why did that system go away? Did it cost too much?May 19, 2017 11:42 am at 11:42 am #1280998
I know that when we wanted to implement a makeshift lunch program (before we had funding) we had a very tough time finding enough mom’s with that availability.
🙁May 19, 2017 12:03 pm at 12:03 pm #1281001
The change actually started in the mid 1960s when busing to achieve racial balance started. Prior to that kids walked home for lunch from neighborhood elementary schools. Only the junior and senior high schools had cafeterias that served hot lunches. The neighborhood schools did not have commercial kitchens, so prepacked lunches in disposable individual containers came on a truck each day from the central commissary. in rolling warming units, that could be plugged in to stay hot and all they needed in the grade schools was a refrigerator for the milk and folding tables with benched to set up in the gym.
By 1980 all new schools were constructed with kitchens for heating and serving. They had warming ovens and refrigerators. NO stove-tops, no pots and pans, no serving utensils, NO dishwashers and NO cooks
This system is far less expensive than cooking on site in terms of equipment cost and personnel. A 4 hour a day lunchroom lady costs about $10 per hour and gets no benefits working 19 hours per week. A cook would be paid about $22 plus benefits..add in the cost of equipment and utilities and the price of lunch would be prohibitive.
Our town uses this system. They sell the complete Type A hot lunch (Main, starch, fruit, veg and milk or juice) for $3 (breaking even). If they went back to the old ways, cost analysis (assuming a 25 year life to equipment) shows they would have to charge $4.75 to break even.
Our local day school changed from cooking on site to having a local kosher caterer (who also supplies meals on wheels and runs the kitchens at the Home for the Elderly) run the program back about 1995. It also was a huge cost savings. A professional operation turning out 3000 meals a day was far more efficient than a single cook in the day school kitchen. We also got nutritionally balanced meals for the kids. No more twice a week fried matzo with powered bug juice from after Pesach through June.May 19, 2017 1:39 pm at 1:39 pm #1281018
50 years ago there were a lot more stay at home moms. Today they have to work to pay tuition and other expenses.May 19, 2017 1:54 pm at 1:54 pm #1281022
i was one of those stay at home moms and it wasn’t tuition that sent us to a second income when the kids were all in school, it was clothes and expenses attached to having older kids. Granted tuition is plenty but our kids wore hand me downs and last years styles and they rode $30 tricycles from target. Camp was a non issue- we played together all summer. Tzitzis for my young boys ran $7-10. The ones they wear today (and I am completely grateful they do!) run $35-40. There were little boys suits in a local store for $30 (pure synthetic) that looked beautiful. Haircuts – free back then. Except for the wahl haircutter I had to replace every 8 years or so. Hats? Shoes? Drivers ed? Car insurance????
Sure tuition is over my head and plane tickets to yeshiva and home (Thank Gd again) materialize from nowhere but I couldn’t peg that as the reason I went back to work.May 19, 2017 4:41 pm at 4:41 pm #1281060
55 years ago the cook at our day school was one of those moms. She worked the same hours her children were in school at the same location in exchange for tuition.May 19, 2017 7:31 pm at 7:31 pm #1281081
There’s an easy solution to the labor cost of in-school meal preparation. Assign the teachers kitchen duty on a rotating basis!
While a teacher is doing his kitchen shift, the students can be assigned “study hall” or whatever the modern-day equivalent is.May 19, 2017 7:31 pm at 7:31 pm #1281082
Will he rely on the Heter Mechira?
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