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rabbiofberlin
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Sam2: you are too intelligent and learned to write what you wrote. On the one hand, you say that maintaining that aggadata is not binding is “kefirah” and “meisis umadaich’ yet, on the other hand, you acknowledge that many rishonim (and acharonim) do believe that! Are they all kofrim? Have they all pushed us into denying the Almighty? (g-d forbid) Of course not!!!! You may not want to follow that path (that aggadata is not binding) but there are many sources that say exactly that! (See Ohsie!).

You are using sophistry when you assert that all what is maintained is that “we cannot pasken according to aggadata”, yet you attack me for saying that one can ignore it.

Sorry, but if I cannot (or do not have to) pasken according to agaddata, then ,ipso facto, I can ignore it! BTW- I never said that one can blithely ignore aggadata, I said that it is not binding- exactly what you wrote!

you are also already saying that Rabbi Ohsie is wrong, even after acknowledging his sources, yet you have not shown for one iota that his sources do not espouse this view. Judging before even having seen the evidence-yup- that is called true learning. PLEASE!

Lastly, you are putting up the proverbial straw man by talking about “Ikrey Emunah”. “MAN DEKAR SHEMEI?” Whoever-including Rabbi Slifkin- has denied the thirteen Ikrim? The discussion was never about that- it is whether aggadata (including statements about natural science, astronomy,geology,medicine) is somethng that we must accept blindly or does the matter of following chazal is only binding in halacha.