ubiquitin,
I did not avoid your question, you just did’nt like my ansewer.
What I would have thought Chazal mean’s makes no difference the question is what they actualy meant. The Rishonim and Achronim make clear what it was.
See Even Shlaima where the GRa speks harshly against those that dismiss Aggadita “For they contain all thesecrets of the Torah”.