Patur Avul Assur
Again what’s your point?
I already explaine dhow it’s irrelevant to the point.
And what’s even more irrelevant is bringing down a couple of isolated opinions regarding something where there has been a Halachic Ruling and 95% of the Poskim have always ruled against those opinions.
Including Rav Dessler if you would pay attention to the sources you yourself bring down.