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Hi writersoul,

-“plenty of women would jump at the the kind of learning that you say they are incapable of.”

Did I quote you correctly?

First of all, I’m not the one saying women are incapable of anything. The OP started by quoting a Rambam regarding learning Torah that we’re trying to understand. He states there that “Rov hanashim ein da’atan mechuvenes l’hislamed..” and as a result their learning leads to “divrei havai.” DY suggested that the Rambam might be referring to a skill set required for Gemara, not necessarily what we know as logical thought. Even if we want to say, as b y maidel said, that today the amount of women capable of learning is no longer a minority (for some reason), the question remains- what exactly was the Rambam referring to?

And the question of the OP still stands- “What worth is there for women learning Torah?”

The question is not just one of how capable or intelligent women are. And for all the women who joined to tell us about the learning they do and the shiurim they attend, neither I nor anyone else here is questioning their intelligence or accomplishment.

I think the Gemara in Nedarim that some of you mentioned does state that a father should teach both his sons and daughters “Mikra”. I was quite satisfied originally with apushata’s suggestion that women receive their schar on the level of aino metzuva v’oseh, but are we positively sure that in all cases a woman is not metzuvah?

GAW is not closing the thread until we are mechalek between an Eved and an Isha with regard to learning Torah. Instead of we ladies trying to prove how smart we are, maybe we should get out of the way (please note, I’m ducking as I type this) to allow those more familiar with the relevant sugyos to draw a satisfactory conclusion to the OP’s original question.