Sam2 (and besalel):
Out of respect for you, other MO members here, and Rabbi Schachter himself, I did not mention him by name. But since you insist…
No, it is Rav Elchonon, et al. who called Nationalism A”Z, not me.
You refuse to accept that I merely conveyed Rav Schwab’s written rebuttal to Rabbi Schachter’s shita in question, calling those like him “Talmid Chacham ShEin boDeah” in response to that shita. This is indisputable.
It is also quite logical that since “Religious Zionism” is, in Rav Elchonon’s words, Torah mixed with A”Z, and that MO are proud nationalists, then since Rav Schwab ruled out the Torah part, and the shita itself is very nationalist, then where else did it come from besides Nationalism which MO are proud of? You can’t have it both ways.
ZDad:
I am not getting involved in that one, but the common understanding of Chassidus as you portrayed it is clearly not what defines Chassidus.