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charliehall:

I don’t prescribe to your dichotomy of “orthodox” or “non-orthodox”. If a person keeps Shabbos but not Kosher is he orthodox? If he keeps Shabbos, Kosher and Family Purity but not does not put up mezuzos on his doorways is he orthodox?

Instead there are varying degrees of following the ways of the Torah. There is the Chassidishe, Litvishe, Sefardic, Teimanic- all of these are tried and true ways that virtually no camp will say to another that it is false. All of these are paths in serving Hashem and a person can be in any degree to infinity on one of these paths.

A book can also be somewhere along the path. If it tells a person to keep Shabbos- this is great. If it also says keep kosher- wonderful. But if it says that leather teffilin is the ‘Old Way’, we need to keep pace with society and the future is in plastics- this is a problem. Does that mean that he is wrong about the first two? Absolutely not.

I also urge you to read up on who was involved in making the environment favorable to learning Torah here. The Chazon Ish says that he lost years of his life fighting for Torah values here.

Professional:

Your mistake is in what that responsibility is according to halacha.

mikehall:

You misunderstood the point I was trying to make by redefining your statements. I was trying to show you how views like the ones you espouse lead to problems like those that I brought.