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charliehall
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“why you assumed by sefardi leadership I meant sefardi politicians”

The Sefardi rabbis control the Shas party and decide whom the MKs will be.

“I really doubt any country will take people who want to come for welfare”

In the US, if the visa grantor thinks you will likely end up on welfare, you won’t get a visa. You could come illegally, of course, or come as a legal visitor and overstay the expiration of the visa.

A better, legal, way is to enroll in a degree-granting institution. Anyone without a criminal record from anywhere in the world can do that and come here on a student visa. Many yeshivot have started granting degrees; they would just need to have a visa office to process the paperwork. But the student’s ability to earn income would be severely limited.

“Israeli society will have to accept that charedi soldiers will not accept the p’sakim of non chareidi rabbis in places such as the IDF.”

Then the charedi soldiers will have to suffer courts martial when they disobey an order. The halachah is that when you become part of a new community you abide by the rabbis of that community. How many charedi rabbis are there in the IDF?

The idea that non-charedi rabbis are not competent to pasken shilahs is one of the most vicious slanders around. The charedim who push that nonsense should stop wondering why the datim are doing nothing to help stop the budget cuts or to prevent conscription.