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by the way- Inside Outside by Gila Manolson is an excellent book for men and women. it was extremely well written, i couldnt put it down! i highly recommend to all. A few posts ago mentioned about the rebbetzins not covering her knees and being a bad role model, while of course everything we do is 100% our achrayus, and we should not be pointing fingers, i beileve in one exception. i think that bais yaakov teachers who do not cover their knees not only send messages of hypocrisy, but what else are they supposed to ecpect from their students? it irritates me so much to see these really special and inspring women who send conflicting messages to their poor students! we are all thirsty for role models in this area