As a male I will stipulate that women dress to impress women and not men.
HOWEVER, when I’m in a bagel shop in Lakewood and a (Yeshivisha/regular) women is sitting at a table and leans over to help her daughter with her ice cream and she exposes 6 inches of her back because her shirt rode up, THAT is a problem.
And when I’m having pizza with mt 8 year old daughter and EVERY women is sitting in the store with knees and more visible for all to see, THAT is a problem.
And when I’m walking to my car in the parking lot and a woman opens a car door to get in/out right in front of me and in the process bares it all, THAT is a problem.
I live in Lakewood and trust me, I can go on and on and on and…
No, men are not perverts, but if you stick this stuff right in front of us, what would you like us to do? We’re trying to mind our own business but some women are trying to make their business, ours!