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The question, philosopher, is are accomplishing something or just talking lashon hara? If all you are doing is arguing and ranting about what “they” (usually women) are doing, then it is lashon hara plain and simple.
First of all, nobody can know who gets influenced and what kind of hoshpoah somebody has. Just as TV and secular media can have an hoshpoah, so can talking and discussing frum issues. You don’t know. Second of all, one is allowed to discuss tznius/untznius just as one is allowed to discuss business ethics/cheating. If you feel otherwise then I question how you could’ve post your comment regarding ethics as that would’ve been loshen hora on the people who don’t practice business ethics. Furthermore, by your feeling of what halacha of loshen hora is, you shouldn’t have clicked on this thread as by clicking on this thread and knowing what the contents of this thread are then you are, by your standards, violating the laws of l”h.
I don’t know how you get people to dress more tzniusdik but judging from the language and the tones here, I don’t think anyone would be inspired to change their dress by reading things here.
You might not be. There are others with different opnions and feelings, thoughts and behavours, out there.
Again, it is amazing how often the CR ends up as a place to say how awful women are and how they are stopping Moshiach from coming. Amazing how you poor, unfortunate men have to put up with the likes of us
Interesting, I don’t remember ever seeing posts about how awful we women are (that would include me as a woman) and that we are stopping Moshiach from coming. I guess people read what they want to.
I use the screen name “Just Me” becaues I realized that that is the only person I can change. I do my thing and I try to live in a way that would give nachas to the Rebonon Shel Olam, my Tatte, and try to just ignore the bad that many other people do. I do what I can for kiruv (I’ve been involved with Project:Yes, Aish HaTorah and Partners in Torah) but in the end, I think being a good Jew and showing that you can be frum and not obnoxious is the only way.
I have been through that before. Somehow, if one doesn’t like what’s another is saying they label them obnoxious and judgemental.
Why did you write that you’re happy to see that someone (me)agrees with you regarding business ethics? Am I not being obnoxious to others when I agree with you?
I have a very big suspicion that those who hock against the idea of having tznius discussions, calling those who stand up for halacha obnoxious, judgemental, etc. would fall all over themseleves trying to get in a word in a thread about business ethics against those who do not practice it.