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Randomex
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Gavra at work:

Of course it doesn't, and that is not what I said. Straw Man.

Not on purpose. Here’s the quote again, with some context. I think you should be able to see how I’d make that mistake.

However, in our times, it is promoted by Yeshivos & Sems that everyone should be in Kollel (not just those who really want it). That means support from parents, grandparents and others, raised tuition/Chessed requirements on everyone (due to those who choose to take the easy way out and are not learning 12-14 hours a day) as JFem points out, as well as (partially) an understanding of the costs of poverty on the children of the Kollel system (which is not their choice or fault). This forces/guilts others into supporting them.

To quote the Gemorah in Chaggigah (5B):

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