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Randomex
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Healthcrazy:

You didn’t answer the questions, so I’ll ask again:

Even after everything you’ve said (I’ll talk about that too), would you say that even when (according to you) most BY girls have probably listened to non-Jewish music, it says more about a girl than what seminary she went to, which you don’t think should

matter so much?

And what was that about “girls who did the right thing looking worse?”

As for your points about music (I wrote this before LFS posted):

A. You don’t have to give them money to listen to them on the radio, online, or via illegal downloads (though I don’t know if those are muttar either).

B. I challenge you to name something else that we don’t take from

non-Jews so that we don’t come to admire the one who makes it.

(I’m not sure about that issur. “Lo sitein lahem chein” does mean that you are not allowed to say anything admiring about them, but even this must have limits – the Chachamim used Dama ben Nesina as an example of Kibud Av.)

C. I think people listen to music for different reasons, and non-Jewish music is generally better suited to those listening for some reasons. (This has to do with the “system” that produces the music, and in fact, the non-Jewish music that comes from the same type of system that most Jewish music does is also not well-suited to those listeners.)

Also, some types of music in fact don’t really exist in the Jewish music world, or there’s not nearly as large a variety of them as there is in the non-Jewish world.