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to notpashut (and others too), I am not going to engage in a fruitless deabte about the medinah. Time wil ltell.

However, and this is addressed to all posters, you say “in the time of R ‘yaakov emden” and tell us a very good story. However, I see no source for this at all. In other words, mnay posters-including you- keep on writing stuff, “it is heard”, ” we konw’, etc…If you , and others, don’t show the actual source- it is meaningless. Hearsay and stories, if they are not authenticitated, mean little as no one knows its veracity.