KJ, lior- Hi. First of all, I respect your position but I need to point out a distinct flaw in what you are saying. I have learned directly what Zionism is. In fact I elstned more about Zionism in high school than I did real torah kedosha. I would not consider myself a Zionist although I have my own personal opinions about the state.
Zionism isn’t an over arching term to describe people who are extremists, or who would die for the state of Israel. What you describe over and over in your posts are people who caused the seculariAtion of millions of Jews. You aren’t wrong. Herzel himself wasn’t relgiious. The early zionists for the most part were not religious and they ACTUALY opposed religion so much so that they used to spite the religious Jews around them by beig anti torah.
Now let’s move that to a modern day Zionist. Because there are two types. Since the development of mizrachi, the movement of Zionism has become a religious movement. This is not the people you are describing. This is the movement of today and I disagree when you say they are causing the secularization of millions of Jews. They themself our frum jews. Are we going to say how frum? That’s not a discussion for now and it’s itrelevent. According to their lifestyle they put a lot of emphasis on hakaras hatov for the state. So stop hating on them because they are learning the same torah as you. And they protect the people learning that Torah too.
Fine you want to say that they are not being treated fairly being forced into the army etc. again that is being done by secular government. I think even the modern orthodox Zionism agrees that learning Torah is important, after all they do have a hesder program set in place for boys who want both.