Toi – Unfortunately I think that the shelo lishma crowd vastly outnumber the lishma crowd. And as far as your second point goes that’s simply not true either, people are makpid on many mitzvos for many reasons – kavod, ‘frumkeit’ (Rav Wolbe in Alei Shur has a wonderful piece on this), societal reasons, OCD amongst many others – it is no indicator of yiras shomayim. And there is still no correlation between those that are makpid on (l’dugma) Chazon Ish shiurim and whether or not they get drunk lishma – I was in two of the largest yeshivos in the world for a number of years and saw it first hand.
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