Sam2:
Out of respect to you, I specifically did not mention earlier what Rav Shach, Rav Schwab and others wrote about Rabbi YB Soloveichik and later MO Rabbi(s).
MO’s founding father, Rabbi YB Soloveichik, admitted he broke away from his family’s mesorah. As opposed to the gedolim who followed a mesorah who stated unequivocally that he was wrong.
What else? Would you like to discuss YU’s “Yeshiva” and Stern Colleges? The mixed-gender almost-everything which is clearly against halacha, etc.?
Come on, Sam. This has been discussed before, contrary to your misrepresentation in your past post. And does it really matter what aveiros some people do in the name of MO? Are you asking me to “bash” them? I really don’t want to, and it’s not relevant. Only the institutions and philosophy/theology are relevant, not the people who may mean well, including yourself.
MO is so proudly Zionist that Zionism is essentially one of the most important tenets of their faith. Look at any mission statement of any MO institution, etc. We have discussed this all in the past. I have read plenty of MO publications and writings. This is not a secret, of course.
As it happens, I recently saw a YouTube video of a prominent MO school. If I didn’t know better, I would have wondered if the place was, instead, Conservative. But it was definitely not, as MO like to put it, “halakhic”.
I guess that fits with Rav Aharon Kotler’s statement “The essence of MO is the same as Conservative”.
So please stop trying to justify that which is simply wrong and against the Torah according to our Torah sages and, as Rav Shach noted, that which even a school-child can tell you is wrong.
You’re probably a great guy and I’ve called you “erudite” in the past, but none of that can justify the unjustifiable, as well-meaning as people may be.