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Little Froggie
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As I wrote on the other thread, the religious see and acknowledge the Yad HaShem always, and readily give praise to Him, while beseeching for the future. Religious significance on this day?!? For what?! Any Ness happened on this particular day? I see only a day of open chilul HaShem (and chilul Shabbos). “Let us be like all other nations…” (straight out of his Drasha). What religious significance is to be attached to that.

This is a purely nationalistic level holiday, as they so said – like all other nations… Laying wreaths.. moment of silence.. declaration of independence.. – just like, and copying, all other nations. (Yom Yerushalaim too, the iconic raising of the flag over the Kosel, exactly copying the famous Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima)

And the most learned, accomplished poskim here on the CR should be quick to point out (as I wrote) that this should be a clear Issur d’Oraisa of Chukos hagoyim. (some dare accuse a minhag as such..)

Of course we have to appreciate soldiers who do defend our people. But who put them there? Whose decision to start this whole thing? Whose decision to give back land, money etc. to sworn enemies of our people and then have to defend against them moments later.

Anyone here care to remember how the PLO was almost phased out until some “smart” individual cared to revive it, deals.. land..

So do we really have to be thankful for the mess these “leaders” have done? Again, one-on-one, in the current situation, we’re in a rut, so we use their protection, with the help of HaShem, but no thanks to the “leaders”

And AviK- yes, there is a REAL DANGER to the Ruchnius of soldiers serving. I’ve had relatives there… (one who made it into the news section…)

ZD: As (I think) Rabbi Galinsky replied to this very observation, they ARE on the front lines – in a different regiment. Their contribution, input to the war / security effort? PRICELESS!! How many korbonos did they protect, safeguard, avoid? Do you know??? How many disasters did they cause to be averted??? Do you know??? Yes, the bnei Yeshivos ARE contributing.. to a different effort, area!! No, you (and no one) wants to risk doing away with that.