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Little Froggie
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ZD: I know that line about the nazis, you’ve used it time and again.

To answer (it’s not me that has to defent ?????? ?? ???? of ??? ????? ??? ???????, and ??? ???? ??? ????). No one know what would have been if not for those learning. Care to remember the last Shiur of R. Elchonon HY”D, American Yidden being saved through them… Second of all (as I’ve always responded when you brought this one up), no one knows the Cheshbonos of HaShem during that most darkest period of Klal Yisroel. Who yes, who not. How much. How Many. R”L. It’s was a very intense darkness of hester panim, many Torah greats had their Ruach Hakodesh and Daas Torah taken away (???? ????? ???? ????? ????). But to say that Torah does not protect is r”l apikrosos, so sais the Gemarah.

And you’re correct, some gotta learn other gotta fight (hey, the mess is here). Are the chayalim ready to conform to a Torah lifestyle???

As to who contributes more, kindly take a tip from a USA Military instructor (I think at West Point), when asked in middle of a course about the Israeli wars. He was visibly shaken, and told the student after the “shiur” never to mix in the Israeli conflicts, military, warfare etc. “If you got any brains in your head you’d see it just doesn’t make any sense. It has nothing to do with their army or soldiers. It’s plainly their God who’s doing it all”. (story brought down somewhere – I read too much)