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PBA:

As mentioned before, the Brisker Rav stated that “The State they have managed to achieve is the greatest triumph of the Satan since the Cheit haEigel”.

Of course all of this was Yad Hashem.

(So was everything else, including the Holocaust.)

Regarding “miracles”, at least in 1967, the CIA’s web site (I won’t ask the mods to put in the link) informs very clearly that Israel’s victory in 1967 was NOT a miracle and that this was Zionist propaganda, etc.

As to 1948 and any other potential miracles, since the alternative would have been the deaths of tens of thousands of “soneihem shel Yisrael”, there really was no good alternative, was there?

Is everyone grateful that Hashem chose to spare His people? Of course. But that’s wholly irrelevant to the topic of Zionism.

As the Brisker Rav also noted, the State came into being not because of the politics and reshaim, etc. It came into being solely because some frum Jews were misguided into asking for the State instead of asking for the geulah. So Hashem gave them what they asked for, unfortunately, instead of the real solution that they could have received had they asked for that instead.

Instead of listening to his words and recognizing that grave mistake of historical proportions, many Jews today still pray for this idol instead of for all Jews to be safe and for the true geulah.

Again, I’m not sure where you got “greatest miracles of our era”, but even if this were true, this does not legitimize the A”Z of Zionsm in even the slightest way.

Instead of being “pocheis al shtei haSiifim”, it would make much more sense to drop the idolatry of Zionism and instead follow just the Torah.